JemyM

I never met a psychologist when I was playing BG, and I never heard about psychologists being present in Realms.

I think the closest you can come is playing Cleric in BG2
I actually did some NPC counceling there.

The ins and outs of BioWare romance coding, for BG2 at least, have been pretty thoroughly dissected already. I'm not sure about the other games.

Yet again, I am now talking about HotU, NWN2 and KOTORIII.
For BG2, it's been done.

(I hope I posted in the right part of the forum... this part isnt BG2 or infinity specific is it?)

That being said, my first hope is that while engaged in the creation of such "rainbow" material that those so engaged will be able to manage the fervor of their proselytizing and their supercilious intolerance for others beliefs and traditions. Not to be patronizing but being respectful and tolerant of others beliefs apply not only to those who don't approve of homosexuality but also to those who do approve/endorse it.
My second hope is similar to the first in that instead of going on a crusade to "overthrow game conservatism" that modders just continue to create fun mods that, to echo Simding0's point, are free from tacky selling points in an attempt at being unique.

Well, you convinced me to change the initial post to focus more on the essentials and less on the politics.

But there have been repeated demands upon Bioware/Obsidian to implement this choice, and they have officially said "no". They HAVE listened to people who want to be evil, implementing everything from racism/rape/baby sacrifice/devil worship in the games, something which takes far more work than simply *not* adding the CHECK_GENDER tag to dialogue. I cannot see why they are so against meeting the other kind of demands when they make so much effort to support people who dream about being a menace to society in every single dialogue plus different endings.

That being said- I still am somewhat bemused about changing Valen, Aribeth, or Neth's sexuality. No, there's not any 'proof' that they're not bisexual, but why not simply make a new mod with your own bi or gay romance, or figure out how to mod/override in a new henchman ala Micha in SoU?

Bioware/Obsidian (and previously Black Isle)'s games is a great part of my history. I have played all their games and I remember the experience. One thing that makes them so good is that they really makes you feel great regardless of your own desires. If you have the desire to do right, they really makes you feel like a glorious hero. If you have the desire to be evil, they really makes you feel like an evil overlord.
Giving them more freedom when it comes with romance, however, makes them one step closer to perfect.

I personally find the whole option of being "evil" in theese games to be pushed and "unrealistic" in attempt to feed the mind of those who feel the need of being a jerk. With that, I justify myself for changing the game to make it possible to romance more characters in more directions.

I would love to make it possible to add Micha in your troupe in SoU, although that is an effort that might be a bit more than I can take right now as I am heavily occupied with a major module elsewhere. Messing with the HotU romance's have helped me finding ideas upon how to build romances for that game.


Having said that, I modified Valen's repeated "Lady" into "Lord", and the result is ok. Valen unlike Anoman is more of a gentleman and fits very well in a homosexual romance. Although I personally feel that Valen adressing his 'lover' as "Lord" compared to "Lady" sounds a bit... uhm... kinky...

Nathyra and Aribeth are both very strong female heroines and there's dialogue in which they openly accept a polyamori relationship with the protagonist. This doesnt openly suggest that Aribeth or Nathyra is bisexual, but after scanning through all their dialogue they fit very well into that role. Both have issues with men btw.

Again, ofcourse, fantasy is what you mind makes it to be. If you feel that some of theese characters work great as something, your mind will adjust to make it feel "fitting".

For the record, almost every argument for and against canon straight characters becoming bisexual has been discussed in refernece to my Viconia Relationship mod and really don't need to be repeated.

I can honestly say I was looking for a more technical discussion about dissecting in-game resources to change game mechanics, although I was guessing some kind of discussion about the theme was inevitable.

One bonus, for thoose who are interested, is ofcourse to learn how Bioware/Obsidian constructed their romance mechanics.