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[Sticz]

I have read through the tutorials on fixing the green water in my areas. I have finally gotten to where my peeps can walk in an area that I have imported from BG1, but I either get all sorts of wierd squares in my water, or the green slime. I am using AR0500 from BG1 and the doors and everything work, I just can't get the green water to go away. Is there a good fix for this? I have read avenger's post on using the fix green water, not working for my little larva ponds.


Sticz

[HERD]

...all sorts of wierd squares in my water

Saving area .bmp file as .jpg and then back to .bmp before creating area in IETME sometimes
helped me to get rid of wierd squares

[Sticz]

Is there a way to edit the water in a particular area so that it does not show up green when imported from BG1 to BG2? I have tried the "remove green water" using DLTCEP but it does nothing. I have seen mods where tiles have been edited (SOS) but can't figure out how to edit a particular file. I have the program IETME, but it is limited in its guidance.

If I can change the color of the green water to just a boring blue, and I remove the corresponding water tileset from the .wed file, will that give me a blue lake or something wierd?

I have searched the forums, but not much has lead me to an answer.


Sticz

[King Diamond]

The best and fastest way I can suggest is to make a BGT installation and to take all necessary stuff from there.

Edited by King Diamond, 01 September 2006 - 10:18 AM.

[Avenger_teambg]

dltcep removes green water, what is the area resref?

But of course it removes only the green water caused by the graphic engine (so you cannot remove green water which is intentionally green in bg1).
And you cannot change the colour of that kind of green water either.
It is green because some pixels were intended transparent but the BG2 engine renders them differently.

Edited by Avenger_teambg, 01 September 2006 - 11:06 PM.

[Rabain]

In IETME go to File - Open Area: then navigate to where your .are file is on your computer.

The area will open in ietme. The go to File - Swith to Map Editor. Once you have switched go to File - Save and you can save the area image as a bmp.

You edit the bmp image in whatever editing program you have...photoshop...paintshoppro etc.

Once you are happy with the changes, load your area in IETME again as above, switch to the map editor as above and choose File - Open. You then choose your edited bmp image and it will replace the existing area image.

Then go to File - Create new /Switch to Area Editing and choose File -Save Area to save the changes (saying Yes to all the options presented).

I'm sure all this can be done in DLTCEP too but I haven't mastered that just yet!

[King Diamond]

In IETME go to File - Open Area: then navigate to where your .are file is on your computer.

The area will open in ietme. The go to File - Swith to Map Editor. Once you have switched go to File - Save and you can save the area image as a bmp.

You edit the bmp image in whatever editing program you have...photoshop...paintshoppro etc.

Once you are happy with the changes, load your area in IETME again as above, switch to the map editor as above and choose File - Open. You then choose your edited bmp image and it will replace the existing area image.

Then go to File - Create new /Switch to Area Editing and choose File -Save Area to save the changes (saying Yes to all the options presented).

I'm sure all this can be done in DLTCEP too but I haven't mastered that just yet!

Never do that if you're not absolutely sure. That is a best way to make all door extra tiles disappeared.

Edited by King Diamond, 02 September 2006 - 05:18 AM.

[Avenger_teambg]

1. configure dltcep correctly
2. load the area
3. go to the wed editor
4. click on 'edit tiles'
5. click on remove green water
6. go back to main screen
7. save area

It should alter the .wed and the .tis files.

None of these steps require witchcraft.

[Sticz]

That worked rather unpleasantly, it crashes every time I get close to any water.
I am using DLTCEP and doing as you said. The file is saving to the override, and I add the area to the map, reveal it in the script, and head on over to the area I have made. As soon as I get to the area I move over to check out the water, the game crahes if I walk towards the water or ExploreArea() and try to look at the water from afar.

Any clues as to what is not installed correctly? The area is working fine, I can go in and out of it, I just can't get near any water.


Sticz

[Sir-Kill]

are you using a custome tiz for the overlay? because you need a xxxxx.tiz and a xxxxxR.tiz to a rain overlay (there does not need to have a different file just one with an R at the and and one without.)

edit: heh slurm

Edited by Sir-Kill, 02 September 2006 - 12:39 PM.

[Sticz]

No, my .tis files are all from bg1. Rain, however is not the problem. I am trying to get the puddles of water to show up blue in Gilleykin. Now it just crashes the game.


Sticz

[Sir-Kill]

nevermind

reread the first post wrong

If I can change the color of the green water to just a boring blue, and I remove the corresponding water tileset from the .wed file, will that give me a blue lake or something wierd?

you can check what I have done here

http://www.blackwyrm...1/bg_dmaps.html

Edited by Sir-Kill, 02 September 2006 - 12:56 PM.

[Sticz]

After stealing the TIS files from BGT, I have many working areas. However, now I am running into issues with the smaller areas or "houses". Particularly in the halfling town, how can I import the areas with their fire-places in either working order, or the flames disabled so I can add my own flames with an animation?

Currently I get all sorts fo crashes from many of the smaller areas I am dealing with. I know in the tileset editor that there are some BG1 specific options, is this where I address these issues?


Sticz

[King Diamond]

You must take from BGT not only TISes but corresponding WEDs as well to have correct behaviour of doors, fireplaces and water overlays.

Edited by King Diamond, 05 September 2006 - 05:49 AM.

[Sticz]

I did a full copy of all 7 files associated from BGT. I still got a crash when I tried to load the area. I tried to enter through the door and to jump to the area using the Debug Mode, both caused me to crash to desktop.

Sticz

[King Diamond]

I did a full copy of all 7 files associated from BGT. I still got a crash when I tried to load the area. I tried to enter through the door and to jump to the area using the Debug Mode, both caused me to crash to desktop.

Sticz

Have you renamed them or use their original BGT names?
If you're renaming all of them to smth like "MYAR001" don't forget to change a reference to WED file in ARE and a reference to TIS in WED.

[Sticz]

Yes, I have changed all the associations. I have changed the exit variables for all doors so that they link up, I have also checked over my work by using existing BG2 areas, they all work fine. The only time I have gotten these to work was when I edited the .tis with IETME and it deleted parts of the fire-place... then I got tiles from the loading screen in there and it looked awful. I am thinking that it is something to do with the fire-place and how the animation is native to the tileset and not an animation.


Sticz

[King Diamond]

Yes, I have changed all the associations. I have changed the exit variables for all doors so that they link up, I have also checked over my work by using existing BG2 areas, they all work fine. The only time I have gotten these to work was when I edited the .tis with IETME and it deleted parts of the fire-place... then I got tiles from the loading screen in there and it looked awful. I am thinking that it is something to do with the fire-place and how the animation is native to the tileset and not an animation.


Sticz

I think I remember now... I had the same problems.

Try to export BGT area files not from NI but use DLTCEP instead. Just save them from there and they will work fine.

[Sticz]

Yuk, I despise that program, but will try as you suggest. Thanks!

Sticz

[Sticz]

I have tried to export the whole file using DLTCEP but I only get the AREA file. When doing each piece one by one I still get crashes. Has anyone had success in transplanting areas with burning fireplaces from BG1 that has some clues for me?


Sticz