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Princeps

Member Since 07 Oct 2005
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In Topic: Meet Dirbert

17 November 2005 - 05:32 PM

[...] To be honest, I have never noticed Tolkien mentioning pointy ears or slanted eyes in his books.


He didn't. His elves did not look like that.

It was more of a Dark, tall and slender thing.


Yes, apart from those that were LIGHT, tall, and slender. :-)

In Topic: Phonetic transcription

17 November 2005 - 04:49 PM


[...] Besides, I very much doubt the manual, since it is known to have inconsistencies already; and does Viconia really pronounce "vye-CONE-ee-ah", as it states? I am not so sure.

As for the actors, they have different versions, too, and being Russian, I cannot help but hear what I want to hear, not what they say. I will never get used to Viconia pronounced as [Vai]conia, not [Vi:]conia, for example. That's why I asked.

I tried that with Viconia, and it seems we both have the same problem there. ;) (I'm from Finland btw)


As a Swedish citicen I agree with my two eastern neighbours. Vaiconia sounds as bad to me as Draizzt. Or Kaivan. Or Elliesaimie. But elvish (and drow as corrupted/transformed elvish) in the FR unfortunately (?) does not follow specific rules. For someone with a past as a Tolkien freak (albeit a distant past) the mere thought of pronouncing 'i' as 'ai' in any elvish provokes some physical reflexes more effectively than sticking a feather down the throat.

In Topic: Phonetic transcription

17 November 2005 - 11:02 AM

It might be better to write Kha-LEED, so that 'lead' is not pronounced as the metal lead.

An optional pronounciation of Dynaheir would be DY-nah-hair (hair as in the stuff we have on our heads)

And how could Ath- in Athkatla be pronounced Af-? Uth-CUT-lah would be my spontaneous transcription, with th as in 'there'. But th as in 'think' would also be possible. Does anyone have the canon pronounciation?

In Topic: De'Arnise Keep Be Gone

10 November 2005 - 03:06 PM

If you are like me and love playing CHARNAME as a fighter class then you are also probably tired of De'Arnise keep as much as Chateau Irenicus. My idea is to make something like Dungeon Be Gone for the Keep.
[...]ronin


Tune: By the Rising of the Moon (trad.)

On the road to Game-be-Go-one
On the road to Game-be-Gone
We will make a load of shortcuts
On the road to Game-be-Gone

(For some reason I cannot insert smilies into my posts, but imagine there is a big, grinning one here...)

In Topic: Arendil of the Wolf Tribe

05 November 2005 - 10:08 AM

I am more than pleased to recommend this website - it is truly excellent:

Grey Company's Common Elven Phrases

Grey Company's Dictionaries



A few decades have passed since my days as a Tolkien freak, but the Grey Company's Elvish appears to be a little quenya here, and a little sindarin there. I would say that the FR Elvish is closer to sindarin than to quenya.

On Tolkien's languages:
http://www.uib.no/People/hnohf/

Another site on Tolkien's Elvish
http://www.nevrast.net/a.html

The site Cormanthyr* gives the following information on FR Elvish:

"The Elves of Evermeet states there has always been only one elven tongue. However it has been suggested that modern Espruar is a blending of the ancient elven high tongues Quenya and Sindarin, and those elves migrating to Toril brought two languages with them. The gold and moon elves of Faerie that came to the North of Faerun spoke Quenya. The dark and green elves of the south primarily spoke Sindarin."

Whether this is FR canon or not I have no idea whatsoever.

*) http://myth-drannor....r/languages.htm