Jump to content


Photo

Which ones came along in BG1? (poll is closed!)


  • Please log in to reply
97 replies to this topic

Poll: Which evil NPC couple do you want to be incaged? (70 member(s) have cast votes)

Which evil NPC couple do you want to be incaged?

  1. Shar-Teel & Tiax (9 votes [12.33%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.33%

  2. Shar-Teel & Eldoth (10 votes [13.70%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.70%

  3. Shar-Teel & Kagain (4 votes [5.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.48%

  4. Jaheira & Tiax (2 votes [2.74%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.74%

  5. Montaron & Xzar (bit hard to code) (15 votes [20.55%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.55%

  6. Another Neutral NPC whom I can use & an Evil NPC (i.e. Brandwen & Kagain) (7 votes [9.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.59%

  7. Another special combination (i.e. Montaron and Tiax) (6 votes [8.22%])

    Percentage of vote: 8.22%

  8. Proposed new combo of Kirinhale (old BG1 non-joinable NPC) & Montaron (old BG1 NPC) (=new option) (7 votes [9.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.59%

  9. Kirinhale & Shar-Teel (=new option) (5 votes [6.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.85%

  10. Other combination with Kirinhale? (=new option) (4 votes [5.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.48%

  11. This poll has to many options (=new option) (4 votes [5.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.48%

Vote Guests cannot vote

#81 Kania

Kania

    Haer'Dalis, meldo nin, phae-me, mellt'e-tehi!

  • Member
  • 162 posts

Posted 16 July 2005 - 11:21 AM

Xzar and Monty! If they're hard to code, drag them from the TDD (but please remove Monty's new stupid kit. He is a fighter/thief and should stay as he is. IMHO). :D And the Bards! Both! E-e-eldoth!!!
... Garrick is bugged, when I crack him to join my party he often destroys all my game. Bad boy!
I tire... I'll be MUCH MORE AGREEABLE with REST!!

#82 Minarvia

Minarvia

    Wounded Orb

  • Member
  • 856 posts

Posted 16 July 2005 - 12:37 PM

Thanks for the quick reply Deathsangel, I recall the characters now. I never even thought of Durlag's tower; it comes back to me now. And you are right about Xzar and Monty, I guess. I'll have to play with them in my party more often when I return to BGI. The last poster mentioned Garrick ruining her games - I tried to Ctrl-Q Xzar in BGII and my games got ruined too, tho I'm not positive it was that act or if I had too many mods installed at the time. I uninstalled-reinstalled and left him alone. I'm a bit paranoid of the Crtl-Q thing now...

#83 Deathsangel

Deathsangel

    Living on Wings of Dreams

  • Modder
  • 3089 posts

Posted 16 July 2005 - 01:08 PM

Messing with CLUAConsole does indeed have the possiblity to ruin games. That is why I only use it for modding and in one rare occassion where the global didn't got set for Edwin's personal quest. That is all.

@Kania. I am sorry, but I have decided. Montaron and Kirinhale it will be. At least one of the characters you mention. For a bard you can turn to Kido ;)

[edit] For people wondering, why I keep this thread open even though I have decided... It gives now still room for talks about this subject. I have taken a look at the stats of Montaron in BG1 and all the characters in BG2 that were in BG1. The upgrade to stats is 3 for the woman (Jaheira +3 Dex, Viconia +3 Wis) and 2 for the gentleman (Edwin +1 Str & Wis, Minsc +1 Dex & Con). So Montaron will also get an upgrade of +2. I am still thinking of either, in line with the male system +1 Str & Dex or +2 Dex (Montaron BG1 stats being Str 16, Dex 17, Coon 15, Int 12, Wis 13 and Cha 9). I am leaning towards +2 Dex for that makes him a better thief and will ofset his multi-classing a bit.

Edited by Deathsangel, 16 July 2005 - 01:23 PM.

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

~~ I love it, and I am humbled! Yay! ~~


#84 Kania

Kania

    Haer'Dalis, meldo nin, phae-me, mellt'e-tehi!

  • Member
  • 162 posts

Posted 17 July 2005 - 04:01 AM

Thank you thank you thank you, sweetheart! I'll be waiting eagerly for my dear Monty! I'm really lucky - I've got no trouble like Minarvia's. And Xzar is always with me anyways. Sorry about Garrik, of course, but heh, dearest Haer'Dalis anyway wouldn't like Eldoth in my party, I'm somehow sure. :D So... Mo-o-o-onty! :Tasty:
I tire... I'll be MUCH MORE AGREEABLE with REST!!

#85 Hendryk

Hendryk
  • Member
  • 873 posts

Posted 17 July 2005 - 04:12 AM

For Monty, I'd suggest stats of STR 13, INT 14, WIS 9, DEX 18, CON 17 & CHA 6. Not amazingly strong, even for a little chap, but quick, tough, pretty smart and utterly repellant.

Edited by Hendryk, 17 July 2005 - 04:14 AM.

Ready. Fire. Aim.

#86 Deathsangel

Deathsangel

    Living on Wings of Dreams

  • Modder
  • 3089 posts

Posted 17 July 2005 - 09:21 AM

For Monty, I'd suggest stats of STR 13, INT 14, WIS 9, DEX 18, CON 17 & CHA 6.  Not amazingly strong, even for a little chap, but quick, tough, pretty smart and utterly repellant.

View Post


Sorry, but I won't do such stats Hendryk. My reason: all the BG1 characters that appear in BG2 only have upgrades no changes. You, however, lower strengt and wisdom and charisma. Lowering is at least out of the question, only a slight upgrade. I am sorry, if this is against your ideas, but I wish to do it like Bioware did, as to keep conformity (this might be the wrong word, but nothing else comes to my mind).

[edit] I just checked you go even lower then his original stats with 5 points... :blink:

Edited by Deathsangel, 17 July 2005 - 09:24 AM.

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

~~ I love it, and I am humbled! Yay! ~~


#87 Hendryk

Hendryk
  • Member
  • 873 posts

Posted 17 July 2005 - 09:52 AM

Yeah, I know. I wasn't seriously suggesting that you do that; just trying to give an accurate stat pic of how I'd think he should be. I would suggest leaving his STR and, possibly, his DEX alone and just adding +1 or 2 to his CON though. And if you can see your way clear to lowering anything on him, his CHA should definitely be worse than a "low-normal" score of 9. Perhaps because of the number of times he got all banged up in BG1?

Edited by Hendryk, 17 July 2005 - 09:53 AM.

Ready. Fire. Aim.

#88 Minarvia

Minarvia

    Wounded Orb

  • Member
  • 856 posts

Posted 17 July 2005 - 04:41 PM

Kania, when you say you have Xzar with you all the time, do you mean in BGII? Really? You can Crtl-Q him and the game's okay? If so, maybe I just did have too many mods installed or something...

#89 Kania

Kania

    Haer'Dalis, meldo nin, phae-me, mellt'e-tehi!

  • Member
  • 162 posts

Posted 19 July 2005 - 07:06 AM

Well, I've got about 5-7 MODs, but they are all little. No new locations or NPCs. Maybe the reason is that I Ctrl+Q Xzar after he says "You are not Monty!". I make a pause and take him. At the next moment he is dead, but already in the group and I can resurrect him. LOL, after that in his "Information" he has - The Hardest Enemy Defeated - Xzar. :D Or maybe it's because I have Windows-98...
Anyway I have my Garrick to ruin my game. :D
I tire... I'll be MUCH MORE AGREEABLE with REST!!

#90 -Guest-

-Guest-
  • Guest

Posted 19 July 2005 - 01:39 PM

Thanks, Kania! I just may try that. I do have NPC mods, so maybe that is my problem. I tried to take Xzar just after he gave me the quest, and the stupid harpers let us in to their base.
I wonder why Garrick would be a problem; it is not like HE'S supposed to die in this game...

#91 Kania

Kania

    Haer'Dalis, meldo nin, phae-me, mellt'e-tehi!

  • Member
  • 162 posts

Posted 20 July 2005 - 01:33 AM

Maybe THIS is the problem. Xzar dies and the game doesn't care if I'm able to resurrect him. He doesn't exist for it anymore and Garrick doesn't close his Irlana-Quest... oops, maybe I shouldn't kill Cyrando??? Nope, nope, not it. When I take his CRE-file from BG1 he stil bugs me. Something is very wrong with his DLG I suppose :(
I tire... I'll be MUCH MORE AGREEABLE with REST!!

#92 Deathsangel

Deathsangel

    Living on Wings of Dreams

  • Modder
  • 3089 posts

Posted 20 July 2005 - 06:41 AM

May I ask Minarvia & Kania to take this further into PM as to keep this topic still a bit on topic ;)

Edited by Deathsangel, 20 July 2005 - 06:41 AM.

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

~~ I love it, and I am humbled! Yay! ~~


#93 Kania

Kania

    Haer'Dalis, meldo nin, phae-me, mellt'e-tehi!

  • Member
  • 162 posts

Posted 20 July 2005 - 10:29 AM

Oops, very-very sorry. :blush:
So... no Monty-romance, as I understand? A pity, really.
I tire... I'll be MUCH MORE AGREEABLE with REST!!

#94 -Guest-

-Guest-
  • Guest

Posted 21 July 2005 - 12:32 AM

Gosh, so sorry Deathsangel! As I have stated, I am old to BG but new to forums. What is PM? (Cringe! Really, I don't know!) I'm just trying to get to know what's up these days. Okay, I'm 39. Am I too old to learn new tricks? Hopefully I'm not being trouble to anyone! I'm just excited to learn that all sorts of people love this game and the characters and are still modding and so on.
Kania, maybe we can continue a discussion on whatever PM is??? (sheepish grin)

#95 Deathsangel

Deathsangel

    Living on Wings of Dreams

  • Modder
  • 3089 posts

Posted 21 July 2005 - 03:40 AM

It's okay. I am not an angry evil man... wait a second why am I coding then an evil mod :unsure: Oh well I just love roleplay :D. An easy way to PM is to, if you are logged in, to click on the persons name. You get a little sheet with data on the right there also stands Personal Message (= PM) and voila you pop to the screen where you can right a personal message to that person.

Still modding the Mod for the Wicked... It is a big project you know... And I got sidetracked (several times) a bit... sorry.
However, as we all know, Evil never really sleeps.


Sentences marking (my) life:

Winds of change... Endure them, and in Enduring grow Stronger
It takes a fool to look for logic in a man's heart
Never question the sanity of the insane
The Harmony of Life is Chaos
Living on Wings of Dreams



(1st march 2009) SHS women over me:
Kat: if there were more guys that looked like you out here, people's offspring wouldnt be so damn ugly
Noctalys: you are adorable :P

~~ I love it, and I am humbled! Yay! ~~


#96 Kania

Kania

    Haer'Dalis, meldo nin, phae-me, mellt'e-tehi!

  • Member
  • 162 posts

Posted 21 July 2005 - 07:21 AM

Minarvia, just jog in, I've already wrote you a PM. ;)
I tire... I'll be MUCH MORE AGREEABLE with REST!!

#97 Deva

Deva

    Possum of the Grotto

  • Modder
  • 1378 posts

Posted 30 December 2005 - 12:09 PM

Hm.. I realise this topic is a little on the old side now, but I just wanted to say something on the topic of a Monty romance; PLEASE DO IT! I can't wait to play this mod through with an evil female halfling and Montaron would be a perfect romance for her. ^^

Ninde_ad.gif

143450.png176206.png

Click to feed.

Adopted from Valenth

My adoptables > Your adoptables.
 


#98 Vasculio

Vasculio
  • Member
  • 23 posts

Posted 24 April 2006 - 10:33 AM

I did that with Xzar too!

Right when Xzar is casting the spell, i pause ctrl+q and the un-pause. I also tried killing Lucette that bloody Harper.

Man!! I hate Harpers with a passions!

Thats why i'll never romanced Jaheira with any of my evil pc characters

I also did an item copy trick through the multi-player, So i could ctrl+q Wraith Sarevok in my group. Without losing his tear of bhaal.

I did however edited his weapon so that if i ask him to leave, the sword item wouldn't get stuck in my inventory.

Also i have this cool edited MultiG file from Baldurdash. That allows npc's to wait in the area, instead of disappearing into Oblivion.

So if you want it! Just PM me!
Jaheira- You are amusing, in a "what the hell is wrong with you" kind of way.
Montaron- Ye live longer if ye don't annoy me. Mayhaps even a week or more.