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[Golden Lion 86]

Me again, just registering my presence, and checkig to see how my avatar displays.

[dorotea]

Yikes! This is a whole load of bugs that you have found... and that is after I was almost sure we squashed the major ones...

Ok -- it is good you have found them, now lets try to figure out how to fix them.

Firstly, the Gem of Harmony you were supposed to win by playing cards with Cambion -- then you should have had the imps come and offer you chalice of Peace. So, I wonder if you have the old save to check why have not you seen the Gem.

Secondly the looping dialog is definitely a BUG. Which one was looping -- ie repeating over and over? I need the save with this one.

It is disturbing that nobody else discovered this... or maybe nobody reported this with all the negatve fuss going on... In any case -- thank you and please send me the save with this repeating dialog -- at ladydorotea@hotmail.com.

Looking at your GLOBALS I can see that you have pissed Jonny into selecting the evil path... although I cannot say how -- most likely in the course of the conversations -- since your JonRedemptionCounter is <0 and you can only do this by telling him something he does not like.

I bet this is why the dialogs are looping by the way... and I sure need to fix this as soon as possible.

About twice asking for Sendai's soul -- where did this happen -- in which areas?

Save games would be very helpful to get.

It is excellent that you have found these bugs but disturbing that they are there -- need to fix these quickly.

[Golden Lion 86]

Funny thing is I chose all the apparently good dialogues. Anyway, he asked for Sendai's soul in the illithid part of her enclave, and then again (I am pretty sure it was the same dialogue, and not a follow-up) in Abazigal's lair, I think with the Geased dragon. I will send you the savegame of the game where it happened, but it has been a few game days since this, because I rested a lot to try to get Aerie's pregnancy to go faster. I also have the following MODs (if it counts for anything):

NPC Flirt Pack
Banter Pack
Ascension
Longer Road
Item Upgrade
Ease of Use
Unfinished Business
Tactics
Tashia
Chloe
Rebalanced Hell Trials
50th Level Rules

I also had to reset a few variables pertaining to the Marlowe quest, because I did it after assault on the enclaves (did this change anything? I needed both people saved, and I reset all the variables to what they were before), and I changed Jon into a sorcerer (I hope this affected nothing)

[Golden Lion 86]

Ok, sorry, me again. It freezes up when I try to attach files, so I'll try again after work. Sorry for the delay, but I'll find a way to get them to you.

[dorotea]

The mod is hard-wired so as to you cannot meddle with variables -- as soon as you fail one of the conditions (in this case resolve the Marlowe's quest before the Enclaves, unless to don't go and talk to him at all -- then you can skip him until 'after) Jon turns to evil for good with no reverse.

What dialog was repeating itself? Can you recall approximately? Not the one where he tells you he is glad you stopped trying to redeem him? Because your variables indicate you have missed the last 'good' dialog, but had the 'evil' one.

The fact that you actually reset some of the GLOBALs via CLUA is good -- since it means I am less responcible for breaking of the game ( kidding you) But I need to know exactly what you edited and what dialog is repeating.

Same with Sendai soul -- the second time dialog is 'almost' the same but not quite yet -- as he should ask for 'dragon brother' soul not 'drow sister'.

[Golden Lion 86]

The dialogue that was repeating is the one where he could not sleep and memorize his spells because he saw the destruction of Suldanesselar Dream. This is where I told him to forgive Eleesime. Oddly, he did not give me any evil dialogues, just resistance to redemption. I'll just have to restart the ToB Expansion if I cannot redeem him.

Oh, PS: the dialogue repeated BEFORE I started tinkering with the variables.

PS again: You're Russian , too? Where from?

Edited by Golden Lion 86, 20 September 2004 - 10:45 AM.

[Golden Lion 86]

Cool. I'm from Moscow as well, and I have been in the US since 2000. I left when I was 4, in 1991, so I don't remember all that much.

[Golden Lion 86]

I have Compressed it and sent it to you successfully.

[dorotea]

Got your file -- working on locating the problem and fixing the bug. I am sorry for the inconvenience, but as every newly released mod this one has to go through the stage of bug fixing. Your bug is a rare one -- and it is good that you found it, because we need to fix it as soon as possible.

Edited by dorotea, 20 September 2004 - 06:53 PM.

[dorotea]

Lion -- I need your help again. The save that you sent me is the one from SoA -- in Suldanesselar. The one I need is the one with your bug -- with Jon dialog repeating over and over, and the Sendai soul being asked for twice.

I would also suggest that if you have a save 'before' the dream about Ellesime and the looping dialog -- send it to me as well and try to replay this part of the game to see if it is repeatable.

Answering your question in the Bio Forum. If you saved the Deva and the Demon, convinced Jon, saved Malla and have JONUNDECIDED either 1 or 2 -- (not 3 like yours), when he asks for soul tell him to decide for himself... If you have succeeded in redeeming him his alignment will change and when you win the final battle you should see the good epilogue.

That looping dialog is disturbing...

And I am thinking about banters for Tashia and Chloe.

[Ciriella]

I just finished playing through Longer Road (sort of, anyway), but I seemed to have the repeated Sendai-dialogue problem as well. I am very sure that Jon said "drow sister" and not "dragon brother" at the geased dragon. Also, when it comes to the final battle, the only option I have is to go for the super-evil ending, even though Jon does not ask for Balthazar's soul when I go in to fight him. My redemption counter is positive (68, as far as I can remember).. so... any help as how to get the "good" ending would be appreciated! Thanks! I do love the mod btw, it has some great dialogue and funny dialogue too (especially Saemon).

[Golden Lion 86]

Lion -- I need your help again. The save that you sent me is the one from SoA -- in Suldanesselar. The one I need is the one with your bug -- with Jon dialog repeating over and over, and the Sendai soul being asked for twice.

I would also suggest that if you have a save 'before' the dream about Ellesime and the looping dialog -- send it to me as well and try to replay this part of the game to see if it is repeatable.

Answering your question in the Bio Forum. If you saved the Deva and the Demon, convinced Jon, saved Malla and have JONUNDECIDED either 1 or 2 -- (not 3 like yours), when he asks for soul tell him to decide for himself... If you have succeeded in redeeming him his alignment will change and when you win the final battle you should see the good epilogue.

That looping dialog is disturbing...

And I am thinking about banters for Tashia and Chloe.

Sorry, I must have sent you my Paladin - SoA Save. I'll send the ToB save after work.

Sorry again for the confusion.

[Ciriella]

Ah, my last save was just after killing Sendai... so I went to Abazigal's lair once again, and did all the way up through the geased dragon... and then the strangest thing happened. I got the Sendai dialogue again, and then immediately after, I got a dialogue saying how I watch Sendai die and Jon does nothing about it... hmmm. Maybe it is because I did not install the speed banter at first, and then installed it later (after I had the mega-evil ending)? Anyway, I will try to finish this off and see if I can get the good ending now! Thanks though!

[Ciriella]

I compressed the game and sent it to you just now. Thanks for your help!

[Ciriella]

I continued playing through after that weird dialogue, and got the 'good' ending despite strange in-between dialogues (at Balthasar's). Yay!