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#21 Feanor

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Posted 13 December 2004 - 02:12 AM

True, true. NWN wasn't THAT bad though.

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No, I did not mean that was bad. I really liked NWN. But, because of that too much hype, gamers expected the eighth world wonder. And, in truth, NWN proved to be a nice game, but not even by far the game "who would change the concept of role-playing", as Bioware previously said.

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Posted 13 December 2004 - 03:18 AM

Hopefully, the hype can't affect the quality of the game itself, though. It could put pressure on the makers to finish the game faster, of course, but I sincerely hope they'll sooner keep everything about the project sikret till '07 than rush out something half-cooked. :/

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Posted 13 December 2004 - 03:52 AM

DA doesn't have a publisher, so there's not so much pressure on Bioware to rush the game :). That's a good thing.

#24 Schatten

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Posted 13 December 2004 - 04:50 AM

we will have to wait. somewhat problematic is always if you have to make everything from scratch. so no rules or history you can count on (d&d or something similar).



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#25 Archmage Silver

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Posted 13 December 2004 - 08:11 AM

Indeed.

#26 Tom

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Posted 13 December 2004 - 05:37 PM

On the other hand, something worries me : too much hype for this game. I remember what happened with Black&White and Neverwinter Nights.

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Black and White rules though :hug:

And you cant really expect them to NOT have scantily clad women can you? Why would anyone play the game?
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Posted 14 December 2004 - 11:53 PM

And you cant really expect them to NOT have scantily clad women can you? Why would anyone play the game?

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Posted 15 December 2004 - 01:21 PM

Id heard it will have a toolkit for modding so fingers crossed it does and its not shite, if it does you can expect to see Dragon Age modding open to the public here ;)

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Modding tools will obviously sprang out if the engine is moddable. Bioware can help it if they make the specifications more open. I don't think they have to provide toolsets or such, if the engine is good and moddable, the tools will appear very soon. (1-2 months or less, now that we are prepared, heheh).
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#29 Feanor

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 05:56 AM

The game has potential, I heard there will be a party, an option which I missed very much in NWN and Morrowind.

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 06:18 AM

Indeed, real NPCs again!

Henchmen sucked :P .

#31 Feanor

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Posted 17 December 2004 - 06:22 AM

Indeed, real NPCs again!

Henchmen sucked :P .

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Yes, they had quite interesting personalities, but the fact that you could not control them at all was very disturbing. :wacko:

#32 Archmage Silver

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 08:37 AM

Yep, even though NWN: SoU added henchmen inventory control, but that alone wasn't enough to make them as good as controllable NPCs.

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Posted 18 December 2004 - 01:00 PM

Indeed, real NPCs again!

Henchmen sucked :P .

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Yes, they had quite interesting personalities,

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dont tell me you mean the nwn henchies. i rather play alone as with those "things". -_-
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Posted 19 December 2004 - 02:18 AM

Heh, used NWN henchmen only in the original NWN and HotU, but SoU's henchmen just crossed the line to t3h d2rk s1d3!

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 12:15 PM

Personally, I think this is really cool:

when combat begins, the camera can be switched to a top-down tactical view similar to that in Baldur's Gate.


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Posted 19 December 2004 - 05:21 PM

And you cant really expect them to NOT have scantily clad women can you? Why would anyone play the game?

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Yes of course it was a joke :^^: :P

And yes, bring back real NPCs!
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Posted 19 December 2004 - 05:34 PM

I'm very pleased to say that Bioware seem to have learnt that NPCs > henchmen big time ;). There will even be party-based combat :D.

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Posted 19 December 2004 - 06:05 PM

By party based combat do you just mean conbat where you control the entire party?
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Posted 19 December 2004 - 06:17 PM

Certainly do ;). Even party-based camera angle.

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Posted 20 December 2004 - 01:10 AM

Indeed, real NPCs again!

Henchmen sucked :P .

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Yes, they had quite interesting personalities,

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dont tell me you mean the nwn henchies. i rather play alone as with those "things". -_-

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The henchmen from NWN original campaign and HotU. Those from SoU sucked.