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#21 ronin

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 09:35 AM

somewhere on this board is an updated .tp2 for tactics that will not screw your game so much as the original.

As far as I know, it won't screw it up at all. :whistling:


sorry about that, I know you worked hard on it but just fixing the .tp2 doesnt take into account all the overwriting the mod does. I hope you get a chance to fix the overwriting too.

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 09:50 AM

And again I say, it doesn't do any overwriting. The new TP2 disallows so many options, the ones that are left don't overwrite anything, as they're not part of BP. As a matter of fact, it disallows some components on the chance that BP might be installed.

If you or others know something I don't, post to the community so we can work on resolving them.

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Posted 09 March 2007 - 10:10 AM

If you fixed all the overwrites I am sorry. From what I see in the .tp2 (for example) it copies everything to the override for Improved Sahuagin City which, depending on install order, if any other mods patches those files before tactics is installed then there could be problems. I am not trying to shoot your work down in flames but there is a little work that needs to be done so that the mod is 100% compatible. I started doing that for apack before the author said I couldnt and patching all those creatures and everything else just copied over was a PITA.

If you want to, we can split tactics components up between me and you and fix all the overwrites.

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instead of me hijacking this guys thread lets go to pm for further discussion

Edited by ronin69hof, 09 March 2007 - 10:11 AM.


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Posted 09 March 2007 - 02:21 PM

Instead, let's do it in Tactics forum. I'll look for a thread to expand, or create a new one, I'll send you the link.

Warning: I won't being doing this anytime soon. Going to China next week, plus school projects to work on.

#25 Narm

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Posted 10 March 2007 - 10:56 PM

Dear all, thanks for all the help, it works.

After 10 hours of installing, it seem to work during the 1st try.

I manage to get into the right game (BGI, BGII, ToB) without any problem.

The interface works fine, the map display the right ones, no clash currently.

The only thing I'm ain't really satisfy is the change on socerer by refinement, yet their HLA is so wonderful that I have to agree adding more would unbalance the game. The exp cap have to be install from BG2 Tweak, I forgot about that, otherwise no serious problem I encountered.

Thanks guy, after idle for years since the last BGT came out, I finally did a full install+meag+mod, thanks everyone.

Now I just need to try out the game with NEJ2.

By the way, I remember reading somewhere that I can uninstall my BGI files now right?

I edited the 1st post, my install order change slight, hope it's of help to anyone new.

wow, could you post your weidu log when you are done, and tell uf if it works, i d be interested in trying that one


My log file is in the 1st post, attachment.

Edited by Narm, 10 March 2007 - 11:13 PM.

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Posted 11 March 2007 - 09:14 AM

Dear all, thanks for all the help, it works.

After 10 hours of installing, it seem to work during the 1st try.

I manage to get into the right game (BGI, BGII, ToB) without any problem.

The interface works fine, the map display the right ones, no clash currently.

The only thing I'm ain't really satisfy is the change on socerer by refinement, yet their HLA is so wonderful that I have to agree adding more would unbalance the game. The exp cap have to be install from BG2 Tweak, I forgot about that, otherwise no serious problem I encountered.

Thanks guy, after idle for years since the last BGT came out, I finally did a full install+meag+mod, thanks everyone.

Now I just need to try out the game with NEJ2.

By the way, I remember reading somewhere that I can uninstall my BGI files now right?

I edited the 1st post, my install order change slight, hope it's of help to anyone new.

wow, could you post your weidu log when you are done, and tell uf if it works, i d be interested in trying that one


My log file is in the 1st post, attachment.


NEJ2 is best run as a standalone installation

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#27 Narm

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Posted 11 March 2007 - 09:44 AM

I'm trying the older version, that v4 something with the biff patch.

Hope it works.
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#28 Shang Tsung

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Posted 18 March 2007 - 11:35 AM

BGI + BGII + Expansion + Offical Patches HAVE IT
The BG2 Fixpack v2
The Darkest Day v1.11 HAVE IT
Shadows Over Soubar Weidu v1.10 <------- v1.11 and put it before TDD HAVE IT
Check the Bodies Weidu v1.60 <------------ v1.8 and try to avoid installing Chores 1.60 I HAVE
Tortured Souls v6.09 (BP-BGT) COMING
Region of Terror v2 COMING
Add RoTerror Fix 1 from the Region of Terror Forum COMING
BGT v1.04 HAVE IT
Sword Coast Stratagems (BGT) v4.3
Dark Side of the Sword Coast Weidu (for BGT) v1.85 Make sure the WM6 version HAVE IT
Northern Tales of the Sword Coast Weidu (for BGT) v1.45 Make sure the WM6 version HAVE IT
Secret Of BoneHill v2.05 Full
THE UNUSUAL ODDITIES SHOP V3.0
Underrepresented v5
Ajoc's Minimod v16
CoM Encounters v1.01 or above
D0 Quest Pack v23
Deeper Shadows of Amn 2.2
Freedom's Reign and Reign of Virtue (FR and ROV) Weidu v4.0
IMPROVED ASYLUM MOD V0.92
Item Upgrade v35
Oversight v9 <-------- Install after BP and only use the Tougher Sendai Component
Ribald Genie v2.6
Ruad v19
Shards of Ice v2.0
Lure of the Sirine's Call v7
Tactics Mod v23 <----------- Make certain your .ids files don't get overwritten and check the revised tactics .tp2 thread for components that can be used.
The Grey Clan Episode I: In Candlelight, BGT-WeiDU edition
Thalantyr Item Upgrade Mod for BGT-WeiDU v1
Unfinished Business v15 HAVE IT
Tashia Remix 1.0
Planar Sphere Mod 26a (Partially works)
BPv177 Weidu
PnP Celestial v4
The BG2 Tweak Pack v4
BGT Tweaks Latest version
d0Tweaks latest version
Revised World Map for BP+BGT v6.4 HAVE IT
Exnem Vault v5
GUI

Could anyone give links to the corresponding mods? I searched, and they are completely unreachable.

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Also, would it not hurt for someone to get this list packed together on a DVD and put it up for hosting? Essentially you could download a whole disk of BG mods without having to bother separately download each one what is a MAJOR DOWNTURN-ING POINT because some of you have an internet connection speed of the 19th century.

It would spare alot of time, and it would be a whole lot easier to manage with such compilations. Just a suggestion.

Edited by Shang Tsung, 19 March 2007 - 11:57 AM.


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Posted 18 March 2007 - 12:07 PM

http://america.iegmc.net/

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 06:31 AM

Also, would it not hurt for someone to get this list packed together on a DVD and put it up for hosting? Essentially you could download a whole disk of BG mods without having to bother separately download each one what is a MAJOR DOWNTURN-ING POINT because some of you have an internet connection speed of the 19th century.

It would spare alot of time, and it would be a whole lot easier to manage with such compilations. Just a suggestion.


While this would be nice for some, it's not that practical, actually, because so many of these mods are constantly being updated and patched. It would be extra work to keep everything together on a disk. Also, people have such varied interests in downloading mods that it would be impossible to please everyone with "packages"--it's really better if the mods are simply available individually, so that people can get just what they want, and no more.

That's the logic for the current downloading system, anyway. I think it makes sense...

#31 Shang Tsung

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 12:29 PM

Also, would it not hurt for someone to get this list packed together on a DVD and put it up for hosting? Essentially you could download a whole disk of BG mods without having to bother separately download each one what is a MAJOR DOWNTURN-ING POINT because some of you have an internet connection speed of the 19th century.

It would spare alot of time, and it would be a whole lot easier to manage with such compilations. Just a suggestion.


While this would be nice for some, it's not that practical, actually, because so many of these mods are constantly being updated and patched. It would be extra work to keep everything together on a disk. Also, people have such varied interests in downloading mods that it would be impossible to please everyone with "packages"--it's really better if the mods are simply available individually, so that people can get just what they want, and no more.

That's the logic for the current downloading system, anyway. I think it makes sense...


Persuaded.

Also, i have found a jewel in my folders. Apparently theese:

BGTNeJ2_v1.rar
NeJ2Biffer_v3.rar

I saw that the aforementioned list does not list Never Ending Journey among its mods, I am curious... how should I use /if usable at all/ theese files in my upcoming install?

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 02:58 PM

Also, i have found a jewel in my folders. Apparently theese:

BGTNeJ2_v1.rar
NeJ2Biffer_v3.rar

I saw that the aforementioned list does not list Never Ending Journey among its mods, I am curious... how should I use /if usable at all/ theese files in my upcoming install?


I"m no expert on this, but here's my 2 cents: first, you can find out plenty about NeJ and its history if you search this and the other BP forum. Second, if you want to play the most up to date version of NeJ (69, I think?) you'd be best off playing it by itself, with BG2 (and following its specific install rules!). That, I gather, is what the maker of the mod prefers. Third, you can play a rather older version (in the folders bp-nej, and bp-bgt-nej on iegmc) as part of the "mega-mod". To do the latter you'd want BP-NeJv12.rar; I'm not sure whether your file is the right one. Finally, the biffer is used to get the whole install going, and to biff all the files, which is supposed to make your game run more smoothly (though there's been some argument about that). I think installation is covered in erebusant's pinned install file, top of this forum. But I've not read the most recent version...

#33 Shang Tsung

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 10:21 PM

http://america.iegmc.net/nej/

Suposedly the first should be compatible with my listed mods, that is assuming the readme.txt is right:

"NeJ2v68.exe is the version of Neverending Journey Second Edition
that should be 100% compatible with BGT. It can also be played as
a stand-alone version.

NeJ2v691.exe is the latest version of Neverending Journey Second Edition
and it is not compatible with BGT. It adds much more content over v6.8
and it is meant to be played as a stand-alone version.

NOTE: Baldurdash-WeiDU v1.63 is required!

Setup-BGT.tp2 is the TP2 file needed in order to play NeJ with Baldur's
Gate Trilogy."

I am confused, is Baldurdash - WeiDu v1.63 required for the standalone 691(non-compatible) alone, or for both? And if so, how does NeJ2 and Dash fit into the install order listed above?

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 10:41 PM

I am confused, is Baldurdash - WeiDu v1.63 required for the standalone 691(non-compatible) alone, or for both? And if so, how does NeJ2 and Dash fit into the install order listed above?


Use baldurdash 1.5 or the fix pack with the BP compat. version.

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#35 Narm

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Posted 19 March 2007 - 11:06 PM

The short of the story is, your list which actually similar to my cannot play the latest NEJ2.

u need the older version of NEJ2 to play BGT.

Regarding the issue with BD, its deprecated by BG2 Fixpack, or at least I heard.

So, either play BGT without the latest NEJ2

or play the mega installation with BD as stated with NEJ2, at your own risk.

NEJ2 v 6.9.1 is not compatiable with BGT mega, best play alone.

NEJ v4.0.2 + patch + hild biff can be play with BGT. The installation guide regrading the older version is as below

http://www.shsforums...showtopic=18294

Anyway, I know it's tough, but try to read as many configuration and compatible issue as much as possible.

http://www.shsforums...showtopic=22224
http://www.shsforums...showtopic=22966

Once you get use to the system, u can easily customize your installation. Forget about installing everything, with the diversity in nature, it's impossible. Hope this helps.

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#36 Shang Tsung

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 07:45 AM

Very well, NeJ is then ruled out as a possible mod.

What is SCSBGT v4.3 and where can I find it? Above link did not contain it, or I was blind.

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 08:49 AM

http://www.spellhold...t/mods/scs-bgt/
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Posted 20 March 2007 - 12:13 PM

Grave problems. BGT will throw me out whenever I finish with the character creation or importing (sad indeed: cavalier Str:18/??, Dex 17, End 18, Int 10, Wis 17, Char 18, ahaha) and click ok. Bing, windows error sound and it will throw me to Windows with a black box covering 3/4 of the desktop. Ctrl+alt+del tells me it is Not Responding.

Any clues? I installed both BG games with expansions AND patched each consecutively after being done with each. Here are the list of mods I used:

BGI + BGII + Expansion + Offical Patches
The BG2 Fixpack v2
Ascension
Shadows Over Soubar Weidu v1.11
The Darkest Day v1.11
Check the Bodies Weidu v1.60
Tortured Souls v6.09 (BP-BGT)
Region of Terror v2
Add RoTerror Fix 1 from the Region of Terror Forum
BGT v1.04
Sword Coast Stratagems (BGT) v4.3
Dark Side of the Sword Coast Weidu (for BGT) v1.85 Make sure the WM6 version
Northern Tales of the Sword Coast Weidu (for BGT) v1.45 Make sure the WM6 version

Secret Of BoneHill v2.05 Full -missing thanks to a general power out during download and it cleared all downloaded data to 0. SoBH was lost completely before being even downloaded.

Ajoc's Minimod v16 *
D0 Quest Pack v23 *
Freedom's Reign and Reign of Virtue (FR and ROV) Weidu v4.0 *

*I suspect foulness, the installs told me to rerun them for actual install but did nothing. Considerably I think theese were not installed then.

Lure of the Sirine's Call v4_BGT
Unfinished Business v15
Revised World Map for BP+BGT v6.4


I am inconsolable, and mostly furious. The menu etc works perfectly fine etc. I just cannot start the game up. Any help is greatly apreciated.

EDIT: starting directly from BG2 seems to work well. I am guessing that something with BGT screwed up. Any ideas?

Edited by Shang Tsung, 20 March 2007 - 12:21 PM.


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Posted 20 March 2007 - 12:20 PM

Ajoc's Minimod v16 *
D0 Quest Pack v23 *
Freedom's Reign and Reign of Virtue (FR and ROV) Weidu v4.0 *

*I suspect foulness, the installs told me to rerun them for actual install but did nothing. Considerably I think theese were not installed then.


That is just weidu updating itself dont worry about it, it dont hurt anything. You have to run it a second time to actually install the mod. Now they are updated so it should install the mod right away

Did you install BG1 and TotSC or just BG1? Also, what version of BG1 do you have, the 5 or 3 disk version?

Edited by ronin69hof, 20 March 2007 - 12:20 PM.


#40 Shang Tsung

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Posted 20 March 2007 - 12:34 PM

Ajoc's Minimod v16 *
D0 Quest Pack v23 *
Freedom's Reign and Reign of Virtue (FR and ROV) Weidu v4.0 *

*I suspect foulness, the installs told me to rerun them for actual install but did nothing. Considerably I think theese were not installed then.


That is just weidu updating itself dont worry about it, it dont hurt anything. You have to run it a second time to actually install the mod. Now they are updated so it should install the mod right away

Did you install BG1 and TotSC or just BG1? Also, what version of BG1 do you have, the 5 or 3 disk version?


3 Cd version. Deployed as image files. BG1+datadisk is not in sales here. Worked completely functional as BG1+TotSC without any mod initially if that might help.

Also I wrote an error, instead of D0 Quest Pack v23 I should have written Deeper Shadows of Amn 2.2

Edited by Shang Tsung, 20 March 2007 - 12:36 PM.