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#1 ryuken

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 06:51 AM

Hi there,

I have the Triple class HLA tables component of the G3 Tweakpack installed over RR(4.02) and consequently my FMT doesn't get access to the thief HLAs added/revised by RR. I was wondering what the results would be by reinstalling "Thief High Level Ability revisions" and whether this would work and be advisable as I would rather not chop off the level 10 spells or something. I don't mind adding things Shadowkeeper each time I level up I just wondered if there was a fix.

Thanks.

#2 aVENGER

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 09:45 AM

I think this is why you didn't get any of the RR HLAs:

This component will overwrite the HLA tables for the two triple-classes.


Since Rogue Rebalancing patches-it its changes, try installing the "Thief High Level Ability revisions" component of RR after BG2 Tweaks and see if that helps. Also, post the contents of your WeiDU.log please.

#3 ryuken

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 10:55 AM

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version]
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // BG2 Fixpack - Core Fixes: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #1 // BG2 Fixpack - Game Text Update: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #2 // Super Happy Fun Lucky Modder Pack: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // BETA Core Fixes (please check the readme!): BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #100 // Party Gets XP for Sending Keldorn to Reconcile With Maria: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #101 // Improved Spell Animations: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #103 // Mixed-Use Dagger Fixes: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #104 // Ghreyfain's Holy Symbol Fixes: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #106 // Giants Receive Penalties When Attacking Halflings, Dwarves, and Gnomes: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #107 // Remove Dual-Classing Restriction from Archers and Stalkers: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #109 // Corrected Summoned Demon Behavior: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #110 // Additional Script Fixes: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #111 // Bard Song Fixes: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #112 // Wizard Slayers Cause Miscast Magic on Ranged Attacks: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #113 // Additional Alignment Fixes: BWP v6.1 Fix
~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #114 // Change Free Action to Protect Against Stun: BWP v6.1 Fix
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension v1.41 (requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #1 // Tougher Abazigal (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #2 // Original Tougher Demogorgon (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #3 // Tougher Gromnir (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #4 // Tougher Illasera (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #5 // Tougher Yaga-Shura (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Tougher Sendai (ToB Required)
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Alignment Correction
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Class Tweaks/Fixes
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #3 // Altered Spells
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Continuity
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #5 // Cleric Kits
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #6 // Monk High Level Abilities
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #0 // Proper dual-wielding implementation for Thieves and Bards: v4.02
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #1 // Thief kit revisions: v4.02
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #2 // Thief High Level Ability revisions: v4.02
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #4 // Bard kit revisions: v4.02
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #5 // Bard High Level Ability revisions: v4.02
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #6 // Proper spell progression for Bards: v4.02
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #7 // Additional equipment for Thieves and Bards: v4.02
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #8 // Upgradeable Equipment: v4.02
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #11 // Chosen of Cyric encounter: v4.02
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #12 // Shadow Thief Improvements: v4.02
~RR/SETUP-RR.TP2~ #0 #3 // Proper racial adjustments for thieving skills: v4.02
~SETUP-DUNGEONBEGONE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Dungeon Be Gone V1.6
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1160 // Multiple Strongholds (Baldurdash) -> No Restrictions (Baldurdash)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1170 // Bonus Merchants (Baldurdash)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2090 // Change Experience Point Cap -> Remove Experience Cap
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2140 // Expanded Dual-Class Options
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2200 // Multi-Class Grandmastery (Weimer)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2210 // True Grandmastery (Baldurdash)
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2300 // Triple-Class HLA Tables
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3031 // Easy Spell Learning -> 100% Learn Spells and No Maximum Cap
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3125 // Neutral Characters Make Happy Comments at Mid-Range Reputation
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3150 // Turn Off The Hideous Cloak-of-Mirroring, Spell-Trap, and Physical Mirror Animations
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3190 // Rest Anywhere (Japheth)


Installing Thief High Level Ability revisions after the Tweakpack had no effect.

#4 aVENGER

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 12:10 PM

Installing Thief High Level Ability revisions after the Tweakpack had no effect.


Hmm, I guess there's not much I can do about that on my part then. Sorry I wasn't able to help you. :(

In any case, I'll make a post in the G3 BG2 Tweaks forum and suggest that they use 2DA patching instead of overwriting the files.

#5 aVENGER

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 01:08 PM

Hmm, after some more checking I think I might have found a way to create a workaround. The problem seems to be caused by the introduction of a unique HLA table for triple class Fighter/Mage/Thieves (LUFMT.2DA) which RR hasn't been coded to notice and patch. FWIW, I think I might be able to rectify that in the upcoming RR v4.03 but that will definitively require installing the "Thief High Level Ability revisions" component of Rogue Rebalancing after the "Triple-Class HLA Tables" component of G3 BG2 Tweaks.

For now, try extracting the contents of the zip archive that I've attached into your override folder and see if it helps (back up your original LUFMT.2DA first). Your FMT should be able to get every RR HLA except Crippling Strike with that.

EDIT - since the issue has been rectified as of RR v4.03 I've removed the attached 2DA as it's no longer necessary.

Edited by aVENGER, 25 January 2009 - 02:45 AM.


#6 ryuken

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Posted 16 January 2009 - 03:48 AM

Thanks that worked great, I just added Crippling Strike with SK so all is well.