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#1 Parmenides14

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:33 AM

First of all, thanks for this mod, I'm really enjoying it!  It's great to have another paladin NPC.  I'm stuck on Isra's second quest though (possible spoilers below)

 

 

A messenger showed and said that Quentin Jysstev had been arrested and that I should go the government district to investigate.

 

I've been all over the government district and I don't know how to make progress on this quest.  I talked to everyone in the council building (Brega, Bylanna, etc.) but no one has mentioned the arrest.  I've been through the jail, the estates, the temple, and the streets and talked to everyone I found.  The Jysstev butler, Qar and Lady Jysstev all had nothing new to say.

 

One weird thing I noticed was that Sir Sarles was back in the Jysstev estate building despite the fact that I completed the artistic commission quest for the temple of Helm earlier and he left town in a huff.  Somehow he's back and he wants illithium again.

 

I'm not sure if this is a bug or if I'm missing something silly.  If it's the latter, can I get a hint as to how to proceed?  Isra variables are below in case it helps.

 

Thanks!

 


RH#ISRAALIASEVENVALESTIMER    84070

RH#ISRAALIATALKS    1

RH#ISRAFIRKRAAG    3

RH#ISRAGNOBLEF1    1

RH#ISRAJOINED    1

RH#ISRAJYSSTEVBUTLER    1

RH#ISRAJYSSTEVESTATE    4

RH#ISRAORIANA    1

RH#ISRAPATRICIA    1

RH#ISRAQUESTONE    16

RH#ISRAQUESTONEREMINDERTIMER    918731

RH#ISRAQUESTTIMER    879423

RH#ISRAQUESTTWO    2

RH#ISRAQUESTTWOREMINDERTIMER    2865142

RH#ISRARADIANTHEART    2

RH#ISRARANAATTACKED    4

RH#ISRARANAESCORT    1

RH#ISRAROMANCEACTIVE    1

RH#ISRAROMANCECHECK    1

RH#ISRASALVANAS    1

RH#ISRASEVENVALES    5

RH#ISRASHADOWTHIEVES    2

RH#ISRASUNITEPC    1

RH#ISRATALKS    21

RH#ISRATALKSTIMER    837681

RH#ISRAYOSHIMO2    1

 



#2 Rhaella

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 10:47 AM

The guy you're going to want to speak to should be a bit to the left of Bylanna (closer to the door).



#3 Parmenides14

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 11:29 AM

Thanks for your quick response, Rhaella.  I talked to Taren (hiding right under my nose) and he seemed to get me back on track.  Taren told me to talk to Qar Jysstev and Alim.  I've searched the prison and talked to all the guards. There's no sign of Alim though.  It's 10am in the game (if you go the the prison at night, the guard tell you that prisoners can only be visited in the morning).  When I talk to Qar, he scolds me for letting Sir Sarles get away and then tells me to get lost.  I wonder if the Sarles quest is somehow interfering with this quest.



#4 Rhaella

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 01:04 PM

Alim apparently doesn't turn up all the time if you don't have the Fixpack installed -- there's a quick fix for that in the Bug and Typo thread you can use in the meantime. (Or you can just console him in with CreateCreature("rh#Alim").

 

As for Qar... that is very odd. I just tested it against the Sarles quest and everything went smoothly. Can you make sure that the variable rh#QarTalks is at 1?



#5 Parmenides14

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 05:57 PM

Setting RH#QarTalks to 1 got him talking again.

 
I also did:
 
SetGlobal("RH#AlimExists","AR1005",1)
SetGlobal("RH#AlimTalks", "GLOBAL", 1)
CreateCreature("RH#Alim")
 
...and that got Alim talking (previously when I summoned him he had nothing to say).

 

The rest of the quest unfolded without any issues.

 

Thanks for your help, and congrats on a really nice NPC mod!



#6 -Louie-

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 11:58 PM

I take it this messenger occurs after speaking to Cornelius in the government district? That's where i'm at and it seems a dead end. Also, when do her talks occur? My  RomanceActive variable is 1 in shadowwalker. probably worrying over nothing



#7 -Louie-

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Posted 20 July 2013 - 12:36 AM

Alright, I've just met the dude who takes you to Gelion. I assume Isra's romance and talks don't start till Family Affair is finished? 



#8 Beetle

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 03:48 AM

I'm having a similar problem except that I haven't even been told that anybody's been arrested yet. Talks are at 21 and I haven't had any new talks for quite a while. When I checked the QuestTwo variable in the console, I was told that it doesn't exist. Is there some event I'm missing that triggers the start of quest two?


"Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to anger. No, wait, hold on. Fear leads to hate, hate leads to the dark side. Hold on, no... First you get the women, then you get the money, then you... Okay, can we forget that?" - Xander, Buffy the Vampire Slayer

#9 Rhaella

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 08:26 AM

Could be reputation -- it needs to be 14 at that point.



#10 Beetle

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 01:23 PM

Reputation is 19. It may have been below 14 when Isra joined - could that be the problem?


"Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to anger. No, wait, hold on. Fear leads to hate, hate leads to the dark side. Hold on, no... First you get the women, then you get the money, then you... Okay, can we forget that?" - Xander, Buffy the Vampire Slayer

#11 Rhaella

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 01:29 PM

Shouldn't be, no. Are you in Athkatla?



#12 Beetle

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 01:54 PM

My last save was at the Nalia's keep, but I was cooling my heels in Athkatla for a while. I can head back there and wait a while and see if anything happens. If that doesn't work, I'll go back to my save at Talk 15 and make sure to stay in Athkatla when it hits 21.

 

Thanks for creating such an interesting character. I was a bit skeptical of a non-Helm/Torm paladin, but she's been a great addition to the party and the different background has but a refreshing spin on things.


"Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to anger. No, wait, hold on. Fear leads to hate, hate leads to the dark side. Hold on, no... First you get the women, then you get the money, then you... Okay, can we forget that?" - Xander, Buffy the Vampire Slayer

#13 Rhaella

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Posted 02 August 2013 - 02:04 PM

Hmm, you can also check for the variable "rh#IsraQuestTimer" in the console just to make sure that the timer set at all. That's really the only other reason I can see as to why the quest wouldn't be triggering.

 

And you're welcome. =) The non-Tormites do exist! They're just a little bit rarer.



#14 Beetle

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 02:49 PM

rh#IsraQuestTimer is set to 784409, so that exists... I tried creating rh#ISRAQUESTTWO as a variable but that didn't work. So I'm about out of console tricks with this, unfortunately.


"Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to anger. No, wait, hold on. Fear leads to hate, hate leads to the dark side. Hold on, no... First you get the women, then you get the money, then you... Okay, can we forget that?" - Xander, Buffy the Vampire Slayer

#15 Rhaella

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Posted 03 August 2013 - 03:56 PM

Hmm, these are the conditions for the quest to trigger. (I'm not sure if you're in the wrong part of Athkatla or what exactly could be preventing this from working.)

 

 

IF
    RealGlobalTimerExpired("rh#IsraQuestTimer","GLOBAL")
    InParty("rh#Isra2")
    See(Player1)
    !ActuallyInCombat()
    !StateCheck(Player1,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)
    !StateCheck(Myself,CD_STATE_NOTVALID)
    ReputationGT(Player1,13)
    OR(6)
        AreaCheck("AR0300") // Docks
        AreaCheck("AR0400") // Slums
        AreaCheck("AR0500") // Bridge
        AreaCheck("AR0700") // Market
        AreaCheck("AR0900") // Temple
        AreaCheck("AR1000") // Government
    Global("rh#IsraQuestTwo","GLOBAL",0)

THEN
  RESPONSE #100
    SetGlobal("rh#IsraQuestTwo","GLOBAL",1)
    CreateCreatureObjectOffScreen("rh#alia2",Myself,0,0,0)

 

If you manually set the quest variable to 1 AND spawn in rh#alia2, you should be able to get through. But unless you're wandering around invisibly or something, I'm not sure what this isn't triggering by itself.



#16 Beetle

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 09:46 AM

I think I'm all set - turns out I hadn't talked to Alia enough yet. An extra visit to the Seven Vales and the quest started. Thanks for bearing with me on this.


"Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to anger. No, wait, hold on. Fear leads to hate, hate leads to the dark side. Hold on, no... First you get the women, then you get the money, then you... Okay, can we forget that?" - Xander, Buffy the Vampire Slayer

#17 -KayCee-

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:04 AM

This is the only discussion I could find related to my problem, but I can't get Sir Sarles to spawn in the Jystev estate.  Although I saved Isra's relative from the two bandits outside the estate when I started, I didn't pick up Isra(doing an self-made npc party run) to finish any of her personal quests, yet the estate seems to be stuck on it.  I saved the Unseeing Eye quest until before I head to spell hold(so I've done about 90% of the pre-Underdark quests), but now Sir Sarles won't spawn in the Jystev Estate for the Illithium quest.  Which also means I can't do the Dawnbringer Sain quest or get the improved Mace of Disruption(unless I CluaConsole it in).  Is there a way to get Sarles to spawn there?

 

I have other npc mods loaded which have been known to be glitchy(Saerileth and Zaiya & Kiara) but I never picked any of them up.  I mention this because there are like 20 replica's of High Watcher Osig in the Temple of Helm, which means something is amiss I'm sure.  Any advice would be appreciated.   :ermm:



#18 Foggy

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Posted 08 December 2013 - 11:51 AM

Talk to the servant at the Jystev estate. He normally comes to ask you what business you have with the Jystevs, but Isra mod changes that and you have to initiate the conversation. Then Sir Sarles will spawn and you can complete the temple quest.


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#19 nesk

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Posted 03 January 2015 - 02:03 PM

Hello there, great mod, love the voicing.

I got stuck on Isra's quest in a way that seems buggy. Spoke to Taren in a government building, got accounting book from Qar (?) Jysstev, found out (in Sea's bounty) that Alim might be involved with some woman, brought ale to Alim.

Now Alim immediately tells me to get lost and Jysstev repeats the same dialogue (I can get infinite accounting books from him that way).

Not sure how to get past that point. Any debugging tips or spoilers?



#20 Rhaella

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Posted 03 January 2015 - 03:36 PM

That sounds like the same problem that someone was having here: http://www.shsforums...-wont-progress/





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