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[vlvfree]

Hi !

 

I have installed latest  BWP version, all is fine... But one thing ruins all gameplay - infinity random encounters, even on epxlored areas... Is the any way to stop it ?

[The Imp]

Well yeah, stop saving/loading your savegame ... yeah, this is kind of engine limitation meeting with code usage.

Or you can install a different random encounter mod.

[vlvfree]

I don`t load any savegame, but monsters keep appearing on the edge of visible area...

[Lollorian]

This is BGSpawn - and unfortunately, this cannot be disabled easily You might wanna try using your Bhaalspawn powers on (Ctrl+Y'ing) the offending creatures...

 

@agb1: If possible, can BGSpawn be moved into Tactical installations? it does raise the difficulty I guess

Edited by Lollorian, 25 December 2015 - 04:41 AM.

[agb1]

Sure, although BGSpawn has install options to reduce frequency of spawns -- maybe there are globals that can be changed dynamically?

[Lollorian]

Unfortunately, it's an install-time thing There is no global on/off switch for these spawns

[agb1]

BGSpawn components:

 

@0=BGSpawn system based on levels & party members (NOTE: Baldur's Gate Trilogy - BGT required)

@1=Choose the time between re-spawns

@1?1_1=Re-spawn time = 8 hours (standard ad&d rules)

@1?1_2=Re-spawn time = 24 hours

@1?1_3=Re-spawn time = 10 days

@1?1_4=Re-spawn time = 50 days (eventually, no chance of re-spawned creatures)

@2=Vampiric Wolf Lord (inspired to DavidW Wolf of Ulcaster) NOTE: this changes some Vampiric Wolf in the game. It's used by BGSpawn-system

@3=BGSpawn random encounters between areas (NOTE: Baldur's Gate Trilogy - BGT required)

 

Currently, BWS has re-spawn time = 10 days and component 3 (random encounters between areas) selected by default for Stable and Tactical.

 

From the thread above it seems that BGSpawn is spawning creatures a lot more frequently than even the shortest time setting above (8 hours), so ... are we looking at a bug here?

Edited by agb1, 25 December 2015 - 07:40 AM.

[Roxanne]

BGSpawn components:

 

@0=BGSpawn system based on levels & party members (NOTE: Baldur's Gate Trilogy - BGT required)

@1=Choose the time between re-spawns

@1?1_1=Re-spawn time = 8 hours (standard ad&d rules)

@1?1_2=Re-spawn time = 24 hours

@1?1_3=Re-spawn time = 10 days

@1?1_4=Re-spawn time = 50 days (eventually, no chance of re-spawned creatures)

@2=Vampiric Wolf Lord (inspired to DavidW Wolf of Ulcaster) NOTE: this changes some Vampiric Wolf in the game. It's used by BGSpawn-system

@3=BGSpawn random encounters between areas (NOTE: Baldur's Gate Trilogy - BGT required)

 

Currently, BWS has re-spawn time = 10 days and component 3 (random encounters between areas) selected by default for Stable and Tactical.

 

From the thread above it seems that BGSpawn is spawning creatures a lot more frequently than even the shortest time setting above (8 hours), so ... are we looking at a bug here?

I had BGSpawn with the above default settings installed in my last 20+ game installations and never encountered anything similar - seems rather an issue of the individual installation than a bug of the mod (unless it is option4 which I never used).

[agb1]

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Edited by agb1, 25 December 2015 - 07:49 AM.

[Lollorian]

Might be this

[agb1]

Wouldn't that cause the opposite problem (no re-spawns at all because timer never fires)?

[The Imp]

It depends on the structure of the spawning script, but if it uses globals that never get to be set in the first place, then the spawns will happen too much. My first assumption was that the script uses LOCALS, which are known to not be saved in saving and loading the game.

[Roxanne]

It depends on the structure of the spawning script, but if it uses globals that never get to be set in the first place, then the spawns will happen too much. My first assumption was that the script uses LOCALS, which are known to not be saved in saving and loading the game.

BGSpawn sets Globals in the Area saves, so the issue may be related to the problem that Lollorian quoted http://www.shsforums...s/#entry584071, which was identified as a local problem, if I remember well.

Example

Spoiler

IF
Range([PC],35)
OR(2)
TimeOfDay(0)
TimeOfDay(3)
NumInParty(5)
OR(3)
CheckStat(StrongestOf(Myself),1,LEVEL)
CheckStat(StrongestOf(Myself),1,LEVEL2)
CheckStat(StrongestOf(Myself),1,LEVEL3)
!CheckStatGT(StrongestOf(Myself),1,LEVEL)
!CheckStatGT(StrongestOf(Myself),1,LEVEL2)
!CheckStatGT(StrongestOf(Myself),1,LEVEL3)
Global("SpawnReset8621937","AR7223",0)
Global("RandomSet8621937_2","AR7223",1)
THEN
RESPONSE #90
SetGlobal("SpawnReset8621937","AR7223",1)
CreateCreature("ZOMBIE",[862.1937],0) // Zombie
SetGlobalTimer("01238621937","AR7223",72000)
RESPONSE #10
SetGlobal("SpawnReset8621937","AR7223",1)
CreateCreature("GHOUL",[862.1937],0) // Ghoul
SetGlobalTimer("01238621937","AR7223",72000)
END

Since I never had the problem with timers set in area scripts, I never encountered any problem with BGSpawn at all.

Edited by Roxanne, 25 December 2015 - 08:34 AM.

[Fouinto]

@agb1: If possible, can BGSpawn be moved into Tactical installations? it does raise the difficulty I guess

Personal opinion (of course) : BGSpawn do not increase much the difficulty by itself. However, combined with SCS (just an example), it can be... REALLY fun

[Roxanne]

@agb1: If possible, can BGSpawn be moved into Tactical installations? it does raise the difficulty I guess

Personal opinion (of course) : BGSpawn do not increase much the difficulty by itself. However, combined with SCS (just an example), it can be... REALLY fun

BGSpawn itself is not a tactical mod. It just *re-fills* some areas that you pass reqularly on other quests, so that they are not so boring empty after you have done your initial visit.

[vlvfree]

It seems this bug... or a feature was only on first maps, after a little advance this issue seem resolved some how.