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#201 -Sogdiane-

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 05:36 AM

Hi Roxane,

 

First of all, many thanks for the time you dedicate to this forum.  It helps a lot.

My question will be very easy... or very complicated, it depends.

 

I have very recently bought the enhanced editions of BG1 and BG2 (not SoD yet) to give it a try.

Given that I have not much time left to play , I would like to know what tool to use to install them, Sandrah and a bunch of other mods likewise: BigWorld Setup (BWS) or the BigWorldProject (BWS)?

 

I ask this because I have tried  to install BG1, BG2 (classics this time), BGT and other mods with BWP v17 to no avail. What was possible with BWP16, ie installing mods manually with BWP Fixpack and BWP Textpack, is no longer possible with the last version (to my knowledge, perhaps I am wrong).

I couldn't use Fixpack and Textpack without running the install.bat file.

 

So, I would  be inclined to use BWS this time, hoping not to meet any game-breaking glitches.

 

Is it a reasonable choice?

 

Thanks a lot

 

 

 

 

 



#202 Roxanne

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:02 AM

Hi Roxane,

 

First of all, many thanks for the time you dedicate to this forum.  It helps a lot.

My question will be very easy... or very complicated, it depends.

 

I have very recently bought the enhanced editions of BG1 and BG2 (not SoD yet) to give it a try.

Given that I have not much time left to play , I would like to know what tool to use to install them, Sandrah and a bunch of other mods likewise: BigWorld Setup (BWS) or the BigWorldProject (BWS)?

 

I ask this because I have tried  to install BG1, BG2 (classics this time), BGT and other mods with BWP v17 to no avail. What was possible with BWP16, ie installing mods manually with BWP Fixpack and BWP Textpack, is no longer possible with the last version (to my knowledge, perhaps I am wrong).

I couldn't use Fixpack and Textpack without running the install.bat file.

 

So, I would  be inclined to use BWS this time, hoping not to meet any game-breaking glitches.

 

Is it a reasonable choice?

 

Thanks a lot

There is no way to install Sandrah with any of those combinations you listed.

 

Sandrah installs only on EET games - and EET requires BGEE+SoD (v2.3.67.3 at least) and BG2EE (same version). For such an installation, the BWS is the appropriate tool.

 

Even without Sandrah, EET requires the above versions. You can only use BWS to install a modded BGEE game and a separate BG2EE game if you do not have the SoD addition.

 

As for BGT (there is no Sandrah in BGT), there is a forum here http://www.shsforums...c/59470-bwpv17/ that may help you with BWP issues. The BWP v17 is the designated tool for BGT installations, I cannot comment on its usability since I do not use classic edition anymore.


Edited by Roxanne, 26 October 2017 - 06:05 AM.

The Sandrah Saga

another piece of *buggy, cheesy, unbalanced junk*


#203 -Sogdiane-

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 06:21 AM

Hi Roxane,

 

First of all, many thanks for the time you dedicate to this forum.  It helps a lot.

My question will be very easy... or very complicated, it depends.

 

I have very recently bought the enhanced editions of BG1 and BG2 (not SoD yet) to give it a try.

Given that I have not much time left to play , I would like to know what tool to use to install them, Sandrah and a bunch of other mods likewise: BigWorld Setup (BWS) or the BigWorldProject (BWS)?

 

I ask this because I have tried  to install BG1, BG2 (classics this time), BGT and other mods with BWP v17 to no avail. What was possible with BWP16, ie installing mods manually with BWP Fixpack and BWP Textpack, is no longer possible with the last version (to my knowledge, perhaps I am wrong).

I couldn't use Fixpack and Textpack without running the install.bat file.

 

So, I would  be inclined to use BWS this time, hoping not to meet any game-breaking glitches.

 

Is it a reasonable choice?

 

Thanks a lot

There is no way to install Sandrah with any of those combinations you listed.

 

Sandrah installs only on EET games - and EET requires BGEE+SoD (v2.3.67.3 at least) and BG2EE (same version). For such an installation, the BWS is the appropriate tool.

 

Even without Sandrah, EET requires the above versions. You can only use BWS to install a modded BGEE game and a separate BG2EE game if you do not have the SoD addition.

 

As for BGT (there is no Sandrah in BGT), there is a forum here http://www.shsforums...c/59470-bwpv17/ that may help you with BWP issues. The BWP v17 is the designated tool for BGT installations, I cannot comment on its usability since I do not use classic edition anymore.

 

I thank you for your quick reply.

 

I don't intend to continue with BGT and the classic versions of the game anyway.

 

I guess I will have to buy SoD if I want to enjoy your mod (and many other big ones I guess, according to your readme).

 

I just hope there is a reasonable chance that everything goes smoothly since I am a bit fed up having gone as far as to the beginning of ToB (with a heavily-modded game)  just to meet an insurmountable game-breaking glitch).



#204 Roxanne

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:03 AM

I don't intend to continue with BGT and the classic versions of the game anyway.

 

I guess I will have to buy SoD if I want to enjoy your mod (and many other big ones I guess, according to your readme).

 

I just hope there is a reasonable chance that everything goes smoothly since I am a bit fed up having gone as far as to the beginning of ToB (with a heavily-modded game)  just to meet an insurmountable game-breaking glitch).

For EET with or without my mod you need SoD. Otherwise you cannot play the EE version as one game (ala BGT) since a part is missing, i.e. SoD is happening between BG1 Sarevok's defeat and BG2 waking in Irenicus Dungeon. EET provides the transitions of you and your party in that sequence. There is no jump from end of BG2 to start of BG2 anymore.


Edited by Roxanne, 26 October 2017 - 07:04 AM.

The Sandrah Saga

another piece of *buggy, cheesy, unbalanced junk*


#205 -sogdiane-

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 07:54 AM

I don't intend to continue with BGT and the classic versions of the game anyway.

 

I guess I will have to buy SoD if I want to enjoy your mod (and many other big ones I guess, according to your readme).

 

I just hope there is a reasonable chance that everything goes smoothly since I am a bit fed up having gone as far as to the beginning of ToB (with a heavily-modded game)  just to meet an insurmountable game-breaking glitch).

For EET with or without my mod you need SoD. Otherwise you cannot play the EE version as one game (ala BGT) since a part is missing, i.e. SoD is happening between BG1 Sarevok's defeat and BG2 waking in Irenicus Dungeon. EET provides the transitions of you and your party in that sequence. There is no jump from end of BG2 to start of BG2 anymore.

I thank you a lot.

I'll give another try with SoD and EET this time et I'll cross my fingers in the meanwhile.



#206 Roxanne

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 08:22 AM


I just hope there is a reasonable chance that everything goes smoothly since I am a bit fed up having gone as far as to the beginning of ToB (with a heavily-modded game)  just to meet an insurmountable game-breaking glitch).

I thank you a lot.

I'll give another try with SoD and EET this time et I'll cross my fingers in the meanwhile.

1. I played through EET already several times. It would be interesting to hear which *insurmountable game-breaking glitch* there was in your BGT?

2. A main difference between EET and BGT is the up-tp-date support available by the developper and testers. For that, take a look at http://gibberlings3....p?showforum=195 and its sub-forums.


Edited by Roxanne, 26 October 2017 - 08:29 AM.

The Sandrah Saga

another piece of *buggy, cheesy, unbalanced junk*


#207 -Sogdiane-

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 08:39 AM


I just hope there is a reasonable chance that everything goes smoothly since I am a bit fed up having gone as far as to the beginning of ToB (with a heavily-modded game)  just to meet an insurmountable game-breaking glitch).

I thank you a lot.

I'll give another try with SoD and EET this time et I'll cross my fingers in the meanwhile.

1. I played through EET already several times. It would be interesting to hear which *insurmountable game-breaking glitch* there was in your BGT?

2. A main difference between EET and BGT is the up-tp-date support available by the developper and testers. For that, take a look at http://gibberlings3....p?showforum=195 and its sub-forums.

Thanks for the link.

As a matter of fact, it was a relatively common glitch, ie the character couldn't undertake the trials in the Pocket Plane because the dialog with Sarevok couldn't fire.



#208 -Sogdiane-

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 08:42 AM


I just hope there is a reasonable chance that everything goes smoothly since I am a bit fed up having gone as far as to the beginning of ToB (with a heavily-modded game)  just to meet an insurmountable game-breaking glitch).

I thank you a lot.

I'll give another try with SoD and EET this time et I'll cross my fingers in the meanwhile.

1. I played through EET already several times. It would be interesting to hear which *insurmountable game-breaking glitch* there was in your BGT?

2. A main difference between EET and BGT is the up-tp-date support available by the developper and testers. For that, take a look at http://gibberlings3....p?showforum=195 and its sub-forums.

Thanks for the link.

As a matter of fact, it was a relatively common glitch, ie the character couldn't undertake the trials in the Pocket Plane because the dialog with Sarevok couldn't fire.

More precisely, the dialog with Sarevok was triggered but stopped short and the passage to the very first trial remained closed. 



#209 Roxanne

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Posted 26 October 2017 - 09:11 AM

More precisely, the dialog with Sarevok was triggered but stopped short and the passage to the very first trial remained closed. 

Not something I have encountered in my (highly modded) EET games nor have I seen any reports about such an issue for EET so far. Knock on wood.


The Sandrah Saga

another piece of *buggy, cheesy, unbalanced junk*


#210 -mwdillon69@yahoo.com-

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:24 PM

Roxanne, How come every time I play BG Trilogy with Sandrah...she always quits being in my group after clearing the Cloakwood Mine? I get a statement from her that says something about betting on the wrong horse. Imoen also gives my character an earful. Did you have her quit the party on purpose? All the quests involving her are now null and void because she is no longer in Party. Did I do something wrong? Please help. 



#211 Roxanne

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Posted 14 November 2017 - 01:40 PM

Roxanne, How come every time I play BG Trilogy with Sandrah...she always quits being in my group after clearing the Cloakwood Mine? I get a statement from her that says something about betting on the wrong horse. Imoen also gives my character an earful. Did you have her quit the party on purpose? All the quests involving her are now null and void because she is no longer in Party. Did I do something wrong? Please help. 

The possibility for her to leave at that point is intended. Obviously she and your character do not get along too well. There is a counter - C:GetGlobal("Sanpoints","Global") - and if it is too low (below 47) at the time you start chapter 5, she will leave.

That counter is increased/decreased on a large number of occasions depending on what you do, what decisions you take, how much interest you show in Sandrah herself, how often you ask her for her opinion etc. What you did wrong is hard to say, it is never one single event that decides it, it is the sum of all you did or did not do up to that point.

You can C:SetGlobal("Sanpoints","Global",47) before you leave the mines to force her to stay. Or take it as the sign that she is not the right companion for your protagonist (this is the intention of that check.)


Edited by Roxanne, 14 November 2017 - 01:43 PM.

The Sandrah Saga

another piece of *buggy, cheesy, unbalanced junk*


#212 icymad

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Posted Today, 04:53 PM

Right now what have more content in regards to megamods, quests etc? EET or BGT? My hard drive fried and i'm unsure if i began another EET or switch to BGT. Any ideas? sorry if off-topic...

 

Edit: is there a way to ask for savegames if i don't want to go back to doing all the chapters prior to return to Candlekeep?


Edited by icymad, Today, 04:56 PM.




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