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#1 -Guest-

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 04:45 AM

I swear I have looked everywhere. Is there any known mod that changes this procedure? The chest at the end of the bed in the mistress room is empty. So I can not proceed.

 

I also can not find the Air Statue. The place where it should be is empty too.

 

I thought they were moved or something but I can't find them anywhere.

 

If I have to use codes, how would I spawn them? But I would rather find them by myself...


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 04:54 AM

I swear I have looked everywhere. Is there any known mod that changes this procedure? The chest at the end of the bed in the mistress room is empty. So I can not proceed.

 

I also can not find the Air Statue. The place where it should be is empty too.

If you have the Chloe mod installed, she has taken the statue to the air pocket where the Djinni is.

I thought they were moved or something but I can't find them anywhere.

 

If I have to use codes, how would I spawn them? But I would rather find them by myself...


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 05:01 AM

Thanks for the answer Roxanne, but no I don't have Chloe installed.

 

It's a very stripped down installation for me this time, so I didn't expect such things as this. I don't even have item revisions installed.

 

The only things I could think of that could affect items at all is igi's items mod. It's the first time I try it, maybe it's what causing this? I have found items from that mod in the dungeon so at least it's working,

 

Otherwise I have Ascension and Longer Road and I thought one of them moved it (dunno why they would but..) but as I said I can't find them at all.

 

I have also Heardalis romanace and edwin romance installed, and I have enever tried those either. Do they change this?

 

I have QuestPack too. It changes things with the acorn quest. Maybe it does something?


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 06:41 AM

Thanks for the answer Roxanne, but no I don't have Chloe installed.

 

It's a very stripped down installation for me this time, so I didn't expect such things as this. I don't even have item revisions installed.

 

The only things I could think of that could affect items at all is igi's items mod. It's the first time I try it, maybe it's what causing this? I have found items from that mod in the dungeon so at least it's working,

 

Otherwise I have Ascension and Longer Road and I thought one of them moved it (dunno why they would but..) but as I said I can't find them at all.

 

I have also Heardalis romanace and edwin romance installed, and I have enever tried those either. Do they change this?

 

I have QuestPack too. It changes things with the acorn quest. Maybe it does something?

Comparing my own installation against yours the only differences are Igi (i do not have it) and Chloe (I have it)- in my installation Chloe uses the statue to open the door to the door to the air pocket and she has the statue in her inventory. The key (Misc4G.itm) is in Ellesime's room in a chest just like vanilla game.

 

Ascension and Longer Road are ToB mods and do not affect SoA.

 

EDIT igi mod adds store items, I can see nothing there that moves items through the game.


Edited by Roxanne, 19 October 2015 - 07:04 AM.

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 08:39 AM

Comparing my own installation against yours the only differences are Igi (i do not have it) and Chloe (I have it)- in my installation Chloe uses the statue to open the door to the door to the air pocket and she has the statue in her inventory. The key (Misc4G.itm) is in Ellesime's room in a chest just like vanilla game.

 

Ascension and Longer Road are ToB mods and do not affect SoA.

 

EDIT igi mod adds store items, I can see nothing there that moves items through the game.

Well, I just brought those mods up as most likely examples, because I have never had this bug (if that's what it is) and those mods are the only ones I have never used before and I usually have much more mods.

 

And I brought up igis item mod because it adds not only to stores but also random containers. I was thinking it might have overwritten some containers but I guess not.

 

My complete list of mods are these:

Spoiler

Maybe you can see something wrong here?

 

Actually, truth be told I feel like there are other items also missing in the dungeon. Almost all containers are empty. It's been a while since I played BG but it really feels odd. Also if I read walkthroughs and such, they mention items in the dungeon that I simply dont have. I didn't think much about it until the portal key and the statue wasnt there. The frost wand IS there however.

 

Also the log from lolfixer bothers me a little. Is this really normal?

Spoiler

I'm refering to the Ability #0 is invalid! Deleting... things. Theres really lots of them. But I guess it isnt deleting the item (right?). There are plenty more of this in the log but misc4g is not listed anywhere... I have no idea what is wrong.


#6 Lollorian

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 08:51 AM

Re: Lolfixer Ability Deletions

It's like amputating a sixth finger - the finger itself is useless and it doesn't matter if you don't have it :D (wierd example I know but I hope you get the idea)

 

If you feel however that the lolfixer is messing things up, do gimme a shout :)


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:11 AM

Re: Lolfixer Ability Deletions

It's like amputating a sixth finger - the finger itself is useless and it doesn't matter if you don't have it :D (wierd example I know but I hope you get the idea)

 

If you feel however that the lolfixer is messing things up, do gimme a shout :)

Lolfixer removes the erroneous fields from the items or corrects things, it does not remove items. And the key you search does not even have some special abbility that could be erroneous (Its only purpose is that you have it in the inventory when you want to enter the portal - the script for the portal checks that you have the item but the item itself does nothing)

 

Re: Lolfixer Ability Deletions

It's like amputating a sixth finger - the finger itself is useless and it doesn't matter if you don't have it :D (wierd example I know but I hope you get the idea)

 

If you feel however that the lolfixer is messing things up, do gimme a shout :)


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:19 AM

Ohhhhh I understand now :doh:

 

Here - hopefully changing the "Deleting..." to "Deleting Ability #0..." helps you chill :D


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:22 AM

Comparing my own installation against yours the only differences are Igi (i do not have it) and Chloe (I have it)- in my installation Chloe uses the statue to open the door to the door to the air pocket and she has the statue in her inventory. The key (Misc4G.itm) is in Ellesime's room in a chest just like vanilla game.

 

Ascension and Longer Road are ToB mods and do not affect SoA.

 

EDIT igi mod adds store items, I can see nothing there that moves items through the game.

Well, I just brought those mods up as most likely examples, because I have never had this bug (if that's what it is) and those mods are the only ones I have never used before and I usually have much more mods.

 

And I brought up igis item mod because it adds not only to stores but also random containers. I was thinking it might have overwritten some containers but I guess not.

 

My complete list of mods are these:

Spoiler

Maybe you can see something wrong here?

 

Actually, truth be told I feel like there are other items also missing in the dungeon. Almost all containers are empty. It's been a while since I played BG but it really feels odd. Also if I read walkthroughs and such, they mention items in the dungeon that I simply dont have. I didn't think much about it until the portal key and the statue wasnt there. The frost wand IS there however.

 

Also the log from lolfixer bothers me a little. Is this really normal?

Spoiler

I'm refering to the Ability #0 is invalid! Deleting... things. Theres really lots of them. But I guess it isnt deleting the item (right?). There are plenty more of this in the log but misc4g is not listed anywhere... I have no idea what is wrong.

The items in this area are placed there either by script or by the original area file. The Misc4G.itm in particular is in the AR0602.are (unless a script or overwriting mod tweaks it out.) Many other items are put there when you transit from BG1 to SoA, so it may depend on what your party had when they last talked to Belt.

So I suggest you look at AR0602.are with a game editor (e.g. Near Infinity) and see what is inside the container called chest 8.

If the key is missing there, the only way to find out is by checking AR0602.are with the changelog tool to see which mod may have modified it.


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:25 AM

Yes exactly lollorian :D it was mostly the wording that made me raise an eyebrow. Otherwise I know what your mod is supposed to do, and I doubt it is causing my issue because misc4g (portal key) would then be listed in the log but it isnt.

 

So guys, what is the next step? The damned portal key isnt there. How can I check which mod did this?


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:35 AM

Yes exactly lollorian :D it was mostly the wording that made me raise an eyebrow. Otherwise I know what your mod is supposed to do, and I doubt it is causing my issue because misc4g (portal key) would then be listed in the log but it isnt.

 

So guys, what is the next step? The damned portal key isnt there. How can I check which mod did this?

The items in this area are placed there either by script or by the original area file. The Misc4G.itm in particular is in the AR0602.are (unless a script or overwriting mod tweaks it out.) Many other items are put there when you transit from BG1 to SoA, so it may depend on what your party had when they last talked to Belt.

So I suggest you look at AR0602.are with a game editor (e.g. Near Infinity) and see what is inside the container called chest 8.

If the key is missing there, the only way to find out is by checking AR0602.are with the changelog tool to see which mod may have modified it.


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#12 Lollorian

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Posted 19 October 2015 - 09:44 AM

Can you check your lolfixer logs for stuff that's affecting AR0602.ARE please?


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Posted 19 October 2015 - 10:56 AM

Roxanne, thanks I will do as you say to nail this problem down.

 

Well, unless lollorian has something to say about these rather odd log entries. It's actually funny that you asked about this because I  noticed this in the log earlier and I thought it was odd but didn't think more of it. I didn't know then that it regards this specific area, or I would have asked about it.

 

These are all entries that mentions AR0602.ARE:

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Notice that item #0 gets deleted like 50 times or so in container 33. Also 3 times in container 36. Maybe this is normal but it sure doesn't look like it.


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Posted 20 October 2015 - 07:22 AM

Sure looks like something is fishy with the lolfixer :D

 

Look for an AR0602.ARE file in the lolfixer/backup folder and rename it to AR0602OLD.ARE

Look for an AR0602.ARE file in the GENERALIZED_BIFFING folder (it might take a while to search) and rename it to AR0602NEW.ARE

 

Now please upload both files somewhere so I can have a look and debug why the lolfixer fucked with it so hard :( (Also, you should CLUAConsole:CreateItem('MISC4G') to proceed :P I'm fairly certain the lolfixer is the cause now - but lemme confirm with your files :))

 

Sorry for the trouble.


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 04:47 AM

It's not a problem :) instead thank you for looking into this

 

Here are the files:

http://www.filedropper.com/ar0602old

http://www.filedropper.com/ar0602new

 

I'm really interested in what could be the problem here. Especially since it would seem like many would report this.

 

I'm also weary that this could have happened with other things in the game as well, so I will reinstall if you find the issue.


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 05:00 AM

It's not a problem :) instead thank you for looking into this

 

Here are the files:

http://www.filedropper.com/ar0602old

http://www.filedropper.com/ar0602new

 

I'm really interested in what could be the problem here. Especially since it would seem like many would report this.

 

I'm also weary that this could have happened with other things in the game as well, so I will reinstall if you find the issue.

So it is in deed the lolfixer. old has the key and in new it is gone.

Instead of uninstalling you may just want to copy the AR0602.ARE file from the lolfixer/backup folder into override.

Bad thing is, you will only see the effect when you go to a save prior to having entered this area, i,e, go to the last save of BG1 or start BG2 anew, since it is the very first area here.

 @lollorian >> look also into the other containers, almost all of the items have been removed from them.

 

Edit - on second thought - it may be better to reinstall as ar0602 may not be the only area affected by this bug.


Edited by Roxanne, 21 October 2015 - 05:09 AM.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 05:38 AM

Unfortunately, I am also affected by similar bug. However, in my case the containers in the Portal Key room are just fine, as are the ones in Rielev's room, but for example all containers in the room with Sewage Golem are empty. Also, the trapped room from where the Air Elemental statue should be found, is empty, with exception of Helm of Balduran. I didn't bother to play any further until we can shed some light on this issue.

I have included the relevant files, for what it's worth.

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Edited by enkku, 21 October 2015 - 05:39 AM.

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Posted 21 October 2015 - 06:39 AM

Unfortunately, I am also affected by similar bug. However, in my case the containers in the Portal Key room are just fine, as are the ones in Rielev's room, but for example all containers in the room with Sewage Golem are empty. Also, the trapped room from where the Air Elemental statue should be found, is empty, with exception of Helm of Balduran. I didn't bother to play any further until we can shed some light on this issue.

I have included the relevant files, for what it's worth.

Really looks like the same issue, items randomly removed from a number of containers throughout the area, even if the items affected differ in both cases.

In both cases new trigger L-LightningTrg was added to the area (by Almaterias restauration mod) but it is hard to imagine that this could be the source of the problem (I would definitely exclude it as possible culprit).


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:18 AM

I'm really sorry for the lolfixer wrecking both of your AR0602.AREs - I've isolated the source of the problem:

 

This piece of code from JA#BGT_Tweak.tp2:

COPY_EXISTING ~AR0602.ARE~ ~override~ //Axt im Startcontainer
READ_ASCII 0x72c8 AXT
PATCH_IF (~%AXT%~ STRING_COMPARE ~AX1H01.ITM~ ) THEN BEGIN
WRITE_ASCII 0x72c8 ~JA#AX1H1~
END
BUT_ONLY_IF_IT_CHANGES

 

This is screwing your AR0602.ARE and the lolfixer came along and broke the ARE even more because it expects the mods before it to play properly with the game's files and not blatanly overwrite shit like this :(

 

I'll try to fix Jarl's code but meanwhile, just avoid the Jarl'd BGT Tweak component called 'Item Addon (IWD-Types)' - I'd recommend just skipping the mod entirely until someone comes along and thoroughly reviews it.

 

Can either of you upload a zipped up Big World Debug.txt with the full lolfixer log please? (just need to verify whether the container fixer is working for other areas)


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Posted 21 October 2015 - 07:40 AM

I'm really sorry for the lolfixer wrecking both of your AR0602.AREs - I've isolated the source of the problem:

 

This piece of code from JA#BGT_Tweak.tp2:

 

COPY_EXISTING ~AR0602.ARE~ ~override~ //Axt im Startcontainer
READ_ASCII 0x72c8 AXT
PATCH_IF (~%AXT%~ STRING_COMPARE ~AX1H01.ITM~ ) THEN BEGIN
WRITE_ASCII 0x72c8 ~JA#AX1H1~
END
BUT_ONLY_IF_IT_CHANGES

 

 

This is screwing your AR0602.ARE and the lolfixer came along and broke the ARE even more because it expects the mods before it to play properly with the game's files and not blatanly overwrite shit like this :(

 

I'll try to fix Jarl's code but meanwhile, just avoid the Jarl'd BGT Tweak component called 'Item Addon (IWD-Types)' - I'd recommend just skipping the mod entirely until someone comes along and thoroughly reviews it.

 

Can either of you upload a zipped up Big World Debug.txt with the full lolfixer log please? (just need to verify whether the container fixer is working for other areas)

I am puzzled.

I have ~JA#BGT_TWEAK/SETUP-JA#BGT_TWEAK.TP2~ #1 #24 // Item Addon (IWD-Types): 1.74 BWP Fix installed.

I am just by coincidence in ar0602 in my game and I am missing nothing.

Chest 1 contains AX1H01 but not JA#AX1H1 (Both items exist in my game).

Am I just lucky or is it lolfixer that does something afterwards?


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