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#61 Sephiroth

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Posted 26 April 2006 - 04:57 PM

I would also have to say Hord, but wasnt it Kreia who said that about Hord? I'm at a complete distrust for everything she says, so idk

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 10:19 AM

Alright here's a KOTOR duel....



Bastila with The Exile vs. Revan




Scenerio- a dark sided Revan returns to the galaxy the challenge and conquer a dark sided Exile, Bastila stabs Revan in the back and turns on him in the fight....who would win??? Personally i think Revan would mop the floor with both of them but The Exile is a shifty one, especially with Kreias dead spirit guiding him on how to defeat Revan....
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#63 SConrad

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 10:25 AM

Revan, definitely.

Both Revan and The Exile would kick Bastila's ass, though, in a 1 on 1.

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 04:41 PM

Maybe you misread me, Bastila would join the Exile to fight and defeat Revan not The Exile and Revan against Bastila....
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#65 Sephiroth

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Posted 27 April 2006 - 11:01 PM

Def Revan. Also, Kreia's dead spirit might not help the Exile, but rather Revan (she was Revan's first jedi mentor)

But either way, Revan (as you said) would mop the floor with both of them, and if Bastilla had any intelligence whatsoever, she'd stick with Revan, as either way, I'm positive he'd come out on top.

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Posted 28 April 2006 - 12:26 AM

I'm not so sure remember Kreia said in some way that she loved The Exile in the end due to him being cut off from the force, she was very enthralled with him, wouldn't be surprised if she favored The Exile over Revan....

Okay, light weight tilt....



Kyle Katarn vs. Visas Marr



I'm not really sure who would come out on top, two force users from different eras....if i had to pick i'd say Katarn due to his combat prowess, Visas would most likely submit herself to Katarn if he bested her though...
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Posted 02 May 2006 - 10:19 AM

I'm not so sure remember Kreia said in some way that she loved The Exile in the end due to him being cut off from the force, she was very enthralled with him, wouldn't be surprised if she favored The Exile over Revan....

Okay, light weight tilt....



Kyle Katarn vs. Visas Marr



I'm not really sure who would come out on top, two force users from different eras....if i had to pick i'd say Katarn due to his combat prowess, Visas would most likely submit herself to Katarn if he bested her though...




Okay no takers, fair enough here's another....



Darth Traya(Atris) vs. Master Vrook and Master Zhar



Atris at the height of her power and the wise masters Vrook and Zhar working together to bring down the powerful Traya.....i'd lean more towards Atris due to the knowledge she held, i'm, sure she'd find a way somehow to dispose of the two....personally i don't think we've seen the last of her, there was an option at the end to spare her and i wouldn't be surprised if the writers brought her back as the next Darth Traya.....
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Posted 03 May 2006 - 02:38 AM

I'd say Vrook and Zhar if it was direct combat, Vrook's pretty surprising after all (Even though I'll admit that Atris is probably better at combat than him alone).

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Posted 03 May 2006 - 02:30 PM

Here's an expanded universe one:

Corran Horn vs. Visas Marr

This would be a larger-scale battle. Visas has the superior force training, no question, but Corran is a legendary soldier (think Carth, only a strong Jedi as well), with all the skills and experience that go with it. Corran also is very good as absorbing energy, and if put into SWKOTOR games, would have most of the precise shot feats as well. I could see him using blasters as she closes in, then switching to his lightsaber. Her force powers would be the big equalizer, though, as Corran is good at absorbing energy and altering minds, but has no powers really useful in direct battle. I think Corran would win, though, simply because of his training and experience (Visas never had formal training in saber or force combat, remember-just what Nihilous thought necessary for her to serve him).

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Posted 04 May 2006 - 03:26 PM

Here's an expanded universe one:

Corran Horn vs. Visas Marr

This would be a larger-scale battle. Visas has the superior force training, no question, but Corran is a legendary soldier (think Carth, only a strong Jedi as well), with all the skills and experience that go with it. Corran also is very good as absorbing energy, and if put into SWKOTOR games, would have most of the precise shot feats as well. I could see him using blasters as she closes in, then switching to his lightsaber. Her force powers would be the big equalizer, though, as Corran is good at absorbing energy and altering minds, but has no powers really useful in direct battle. I think Corran would win, though, simply because of his training and experience (Visas never had formal training in saber or force combat, remember-just what Nihilous thought necessary for her to serve him).



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Posted 04 May 2006 - 04:33 PM

He's in a lot of the EU books.

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Posted 14 May 2006 - 02:27 PM

Next up.....



Juhani vs. Yuthura Ban




A straight up female fight this time....very good tilt i think as both force users are very equally matched, would take place in the bowels of the Sith Academy on Korriban....Juhani was surprisingly tuff and usefull in Kotor(though i didn't use her often) and was very good with the lightsaber but knew very little when it came to the force, be quite a match for Yuthura though.....as for Yuthura well she's obviously very tough and knows a lot about the force(studying under Uthar Wynn and all) so i'm not certain who would win this fight....what do you guys think???.....personally i didn't care much for the Juhani character, in fact back in early August of 2003 when i played Kotor for the first time i ended up killing her in the grove on Dantooine...
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Posted 17 May 2006 - 08:19 AM

Next up.....



Juhani vs. Yuthura Ban




A straight up female fight this time....very good tilt i think as both force users are very equally matched, would take place in the bowels of the Sith Academy on Korriban....Juhani was surprisingly tuff and usefull in Kotor(though i didn't use her often) and was very good with the lightsaber but knew very little when it came to the force, be quite a match for Yuthura though.....as for Yuthura well she's obviously very tough and knows a lot about the force(studying under Uthar Wynn and all) so i'm not certain who would win this fight....what do you guys think???.....personally i didn't care much for the Juhani character, in fact back in early August of 2003 when i played Kotor for the first time i ended up killing her in the grove on Dantooine...

Well, I'd say Yuthura simply because Juhani was on the Dark Side once and then converts back from it... well, that doesn't really add to her power. Yuthura sticks to the Dark Side only and I think that she's more capable in that respect... and I don't like the Juhani character at all.

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Posted 17 May 2006 - 11:53 AM

Okay...next....



Jolee Bindo vs Uthar Wynn



Joleedefinetly has the edge in experience(fighting in the Sith War against Exar Kun and all) and has much wisdom of the force but he never made it past Padawan before he left the order.....and as for Wynn well he was the Master of the academy on Korriban and knew much of the dark side(obviously no match for Revan) but for Joleei'm sure he would be, don't think he's much with the sword but with the force....how about in the Valley of the Dark Lord on Korriban, good place for the fight....so in the end i'm not sure who'd win....what do you guys think???
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Posted 17 May 2006 - 01:50 PM

I'd give the nod to Jolee. He wields the powers of both the light side and the dark side, and probably learned a lot from Revan, Bastila, and Juhani, loathe though he would be to admit it.

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Posted 20 May 2006 - 01:51 PM

Here's an interesting one....



Darth Nihilus vs. Darth Revan




Now keep in mind that Revan was the most powerful force user of this time no question but Nihilius is different than just Malak, Sion, and Kreia....in fact unless Revan knew of some unique force technique to shield himself from him Nihilius hunger he would simply suck the life right out of Revan, and considering Revan's strong affinity with the force he would gain quite a lot of power, i believe this fight would come down to strickly force powers because if Nihilius were to use his lightsaber Revan would tear him apart....on the deck of the Ravager would be ideal for this tilt....my prediction: Revan would certainly put up a hell of a fight but in the end all Nihilius would have to do is suck Revan in to him drain his powers weakening him, then simply strike him down with his saber or consume Revan as a whole with his force hunger....that is unless Revan could find some way around the force hunger power....it's a tough call but i believe Nihilus would be victorious.....
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Posted 20 May 2006 - 11:32 PM

Okay...next....



Jolee Bindo vs Uthar Wynn



Joleedefinetly has the edge in experience(fighting in the Sith War against Exar Kun and all) and has much wisdom of the force but he never made it past Padawan before he left the order.....and as for Wynn well he was the Master of the academy on Korriban and knew much of the dark side(obviously no match for Revan) but for Joleei'm sure he would be, don't think he's much with the sword but with the force....how about in the Valley of the Dark Lord on Korriban, good place for the fight....so in the end i'm not sure who'd win....what do you guys think???


Uthar would win. More knowledge of the force and, in the valley of the dark lords, the dark side is stronger, giving him the edge.

Here's an interesting one....



Darth Nihilus vs. Darth Revan




Now keep in mind that Revan was the most powerful force user of this time no question but Nihilius is different than just Malak, Sion, and Kreia....in fact unless Revan knew of some unique force technique to shield himself from him Nihilius hunger he would simply suck the life right out of Revan, and considering Revan's strong affinity with the force he would gain quite a lot of power, i believe this fight would come down to strickly force powers because if Nihilius were to use his lightsaber Revan would tear him apart....on the deck of the Ravager would be ideal for this tilt....my prediction: Revan would certainly put up a hell of a fight but in the end all Nihilius would have to do is suck Revan in to him drain his powers weakening him, then simply strike him down with his saber or consume Revan as a whole with his force hunger....that is unless Revan could find some way around the force hunger power....it's a tough call but i believe Nihilus would be victorious.....


I dont know, as Revan was the first one to re-discover the academy on Malachor (its how he corrupted the majority of the jedi who followed him in the war) and since the game hinted at thats where Sion learned his strength, and Nihilus learned his hunger, Revan probably would have found a way past that. Either way tho, it'd be one helluva fight

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 03:11 PM

Okay up next....(you guys can add some if you wish too)




Darth Tyranus vs Bastila



Tyranus or Count Dooku certainly was one of the strongest force users of his time but i believe that the Jedi and Sith for that matter of the older age are tougher and a lot better than the Jedi in the time of the movies....obviously excluded Yoda, the Skywalkers, and Sidious....how about on one of the skyscrapper buildings on Coruscant, with the winds blowing through their hair fighting madly with neither of them wanting to take a plundge into the depths of Coruscant....in the end a great duel but Tyranus' skill with the dark side of the force would eventually due Bastila in and after having her at his mercy he'd throw her off the building to her death below....your thoughts???
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Posted 22 May 2006 - 03:30 PM

Going totally fictional here, and a little off-topic (sith vs sith not jedi vs sith), but i'm really curious what do you think about such battle...


Marka Ragnos vs Palpatine

Let's assume a universe in which Palpatine was born during the rule of the ninth Sith Lord, gained exactly the same amount of force mastery as he had in the original trilogy and decided to challenge Marka for the title of the Dark Lord.

The setting of the battle would be the Valley of the Dark Lords on the grim planet of Korriban. For the sake of evening the odds a little we will make Palpatine young and physically battle-fit (he wouldn't really stand a chance as a twisted, old man). The wind blows dust into both fighters eyes, it's slightest breeze summons a howl worthy of a thousand demons between the old tombs... dust falls down, both Siths draw their weapons, Marka his frightening Sith sword, Palpatine an ancient version of the Lightsabre, they jump at each other and... ?

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Posted 22 May 2006 - 06:20 PM

Marka Ragnos was a conquerer, Palpatine was a subverter. -_-

Marka Ragnos seized the mantle of the Dark Lord in a time before the instatement of the Rule of Two by killing all competition in direct combat. :ph34r:
Palpatine took the Mantle of the Dark Lord after the instatement of the Rule of Two by killing his master in his sleep. :devil:

Thus, in direct combat Marka Ragnos would win with one hand tied behind his back. <_<
However, given enough time, Palpatine can subvert any empire Marka Ragnos can build.


I don't really see the point of debating who would win in a lightsaber duel since there are many ways to win other than combat. :rolleyes:
(Darth Malak defeated Darth Revan by firing on Revan's ship while he was preoccupied.)