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[Sir BillyBob]

Version 9 of BG1NPC Banters is now available for BGT-Weidu. You will find it in the BGT-Weidu directory on TheWizard's mirror sites. As I have already mentioned over on the G3 site, please post all problems, comments, and high praises here in this forum instead of bugging them at G3. Try to limit the posting to just one or two main topics gang, these guys don't need to get swamped with issues that don't pertain to BGT-Weidu.

BG1NPC Banters version 9 will only work with BGT-Weidu, not with BGT-BP (thus the reason I am posting this here instead of there). If also installing DSotSC w/o NTotSC, install BG1NPC after installing those mods. It can be installed before or after BoneHill and it can be installed before or after Yacomo's Wordmap.

I have not done a massive bug hunt on this. It installs. Basically I just fixed their dialog pointers so the files work with BGT-Weidu. The banters should be exactly the same as in the Tutu version.

Until further testing, I would recommend that you do not install the BG2NPC banter pack until after you are in Jon's dungeon. While the two mods should not step on each other, I really don't know yet. That is my next little project.

[Sir BillyBob]

That was easy. Okay, the BanterPack for SoA/ToB should be fine with the BG1NPC BanterPack. The only possible issue I see is that Minsc has a banter with Imoen about being rescued and it could happen while still in BG1/BGT. So perhaps some other condition besides just being > chapter 1 would work to eliminate this possible dialog.

Otherwise, most of the banters are with the new NPCs and since they aren't in the BGT party, those banters won't trigger. Banters between the common NPCs (Minsc, Viconia, Jaheira, etc) have enough conditions set that I don't see how they could trigger in BG1/BGT.

[Ascension64]

That was easy.  Okay, the BanterPack for SoA/ToB should be fine with the BG1NPC BanterPack.  The only possible issue I see is that Minsc has a banter with Imoen about being rescued and it could happen while still in BG1/BGT.  So perhaps some other condition besides just being > chapter 1 would work to eliminate this possible dialog.

Otherwise, most of the banters are with the new NPCs and since they aren't in the BGT party, those banters won't trigger.  Banters between the common NPCs (Minsc, Viconia, Jaheira, etc) have enough conditions set that I don't see how they could trigger in BG1/BGT.

Thanks you SBB. Cheers! I hope some people will be happy about this.

[Ascension64]

Untill version 10 that is... 

We shall wait for the G3 version of 10 before we make it.

[NiGHTMARE]

You're very slightly behind the times, my friend; version 10 was released a couple of days ago .

[Sir BillyBob]

They released it at the same time I was wrapping up this version. Not a big deal, have a version is better than nothing at all.

[Ascension64]

They released it at the same time I was wrapping up this version.  Not a big deal, have a version is better than nothing at all.

Absolutely correct. Although I looked at G3 and they still have v9 posted up.

[CamDawg]

Crap, that's because I forgot to update the text on the download page (fixed)--the downloads themselves are version 10, and have been since the release on Monday.

[Sir BillyBob]

Nice, but I started this project on Friday night. By Monday, it was installing and working. It may be awhile before I want to look at ~_NPC~ anytime soon.

[NiGHTMARE]

I actually meant it was Ascension64 who was slightly behind the times (with his "We shall wait for the G3 version of 10 before we make it" comment), not Sir BillyBob .

[Ming-Ming]

I am confused... (getting to be a habit)

Is the BG1NPC Banters for BGT-Weidu the file labelled BG1NPC-BGT-v2.exe?

The link made no mention of it being the BGT-Weidu compatible version. I wanted to be sure I got the right one before I commited to trying to install it.

[cujo]

I am confused...  (getting to be a habit)

Is the BG1NPC Banters for BGT-Weidu the file labelled BG1NPC-BGT-v2.exe?

The link made no mention of it being the BGT-Weidu compatible version.  I wanted to be sure I got the right one before I commited to trying to install it.

Download the file BG1NPC4BGT-Weidu-v9.rar from the BGT-WeiDU folder.

[Sir BillyBob]

As in the readme of BG1NPC, install them first. Both update some dialogs (Taerom - blacksmith, Lathander cleric, and one or two others) by way of replacing the whole dialog file. I know it isn't the best solution but it is what I did at the time.

BG1NPC updates the dialogs the better way and so, if you install it first, DSotSC will replace the updates from BG1NPC. Also, it is usually better to install bigger mods before smaller mods. BG1NPC is very small and doesn't modify any areas. DSotSC/NTotSC are both large mods that edit all sorts of areas.

[Ascension64]

As in the readme of BG1NPC, install them first.  Both update some dialogs (Taerom - blacksmith, Lathander cleric, and one or two others) by way of replacing the whole dialog file.  I know it isn't the best solution but it is what I did at the time.

BG1NPC updates the dialogs the better way and so, if you install it first, DSotSC will replace the updates from BG1NPC.  Also, it is usually better to install bigger mods before smaller mods.  BG1NPC is very small and doesn't modify any areas.  DSotSC/NTotSC are both large mods that edit all sorts of areas.

Well, in the 'replacing' case, BG1NPCBGT will BREAK some of the features in BGT-WeiDU, especially journals.

[Sir BillyBob]

How so? I don't remember seeing many journal entries in the BG1NPC back that I just converted. Most of the dialogs are banters. There are some interjections with enemies like Tazok (that is the only journal I can think of), but they are limited and I can update an area script to remove a hanging journal entry if need be.

Let me know which ones you see a problem with, I can always do a patch for BG1NPC.

[Ascension64]

How so?  I don't remember seeing many journal entries in the BG1NPC back that I just converted.  Most of the dialogs are banters.  There are some interjections with enemies like Tazok (that is the only journal I can think of), but they are limited and I can update an area script to remove a hanging journal entry if need be.

Let me know which ones you see a problem with, I can always do a patch for BG1NPC.

Well, if you can provide me with a list of which dialogues are replaced as such...don't worry it about it, really. Who is the Lathander cleric? Is he the one in/next to Beregost? I think he accepts Coran's wyvern head and updates the journal in that way.

[Sir BillyBob]

Oh I see. Then it is really DSotSC/NTotSC that are giving you problems. Yes, the cleric is the guy outside Beregost. NTotSC adds some dialogs with him if Will is in the party. Right now, the dialog is still the original from BGT-BP's version of NTotSC. I guess I need to pull in your version and add Will's dialogs to it.

What I need to try is to add the dialog branches like BG1NPC does so I don't change what you have as a base. They use the ADD_TRANS_ACTION, REPLACE_STATE_TRIGGER, and ADD_TRANS_TRIGGER commands. If the Weidu documentation was actually written for people new to these commands instead of written for someone who already uses them, I might be able to fight out the best way to update his dialog. I will work on it this weekend.