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[Cal Jones]

Now we've all seen Biff the Understudy in BG2 but I'd never encountered him in BG1 until last night.
So, my hardy band of fools had just entered Baldur's Gate and completed the thief guild quests. Having stolen the components for the Halruuan flying ship, I delivered them safely whereupon the mage chappy turns on me. This always happens, as far as I know - he doesn't want witnesses, after all. If you did Narlen Darkwalk's quests beforehand, he then comes over and kills the mage chap for you and everything is fine.
Unless you have a party that is 50% archers, that is... As soon as the mage red-circled, Coran, Imoen and Kivan went PEW PEW PEW and down he went before Narlen can even move.
Up pops Biff, and only then does Narlen saunter over and deliver his lines. He didn't backstab Biff though - the hapless understudy just stood there for a bit. I guess dying horribly wasn't in his contract.
Anyone else got any Biff tales?

[the bigg]

Install Mazzy the Paladint to meet him again in BG2. Be aware that said mod will make you cry at night, and not because of its good quality.

[Miloch]

I wasted Khalid or arranged for him to have an accident before talking to him and Jaheira in the Friendly Arm, and went I went to talk to her, Biff showed up and started filling in for Khalid, stutter and all. He might've even joined the party with Jaheira now that I think about it. 'Course, he was the next one to have an "accident." The whole thing was pretty stupid.

[the bigg]

I wasted Khalid or arranged for him to have an accident before talking to him and Jaheira in the Friendly Arm, and went I went to talk to her, Biff showed up and started filling in for Khalid, stutter and all. He might've even joined the party with Jaheira now that I think about it. 'Course, he was the next one to have an "accident." The whole thing was pretty stupid.

That's right. Let's all crash like BG2 does instead!

[Miloch]

That's right. Let's all crash like BG2 does instead!

Uh huh, because BG1 never crashes y'know. There's gotta be a better way of avoiding crashes (dialogue-related ones anyway) than resorting to cheese.

[the bigg]

An hack is better than a crash.

[Azazello]

Never had Biff appear. (except, isn't that him in the Bard Stronghold theatrical play introduction?)

Then again, I don't waste/ice/flame/stone/fry/gas/chunk/gibble any vital characters in the narrative flow. Are those the only times he comes out to play?

[Miloch]

(Khalid has SHOUT, so Jaheira should have turned hostile, along with everyone else nearby, if you just attacked him; maybe you fake-talked him or whatever).

I probably charmed him and ditched him in a room or something even stranger for testing purposes. Dunno if it's worth looking into for the Fixpack since the chance of a real player doing it is probably pretty slim (but if it can be done, someone'll do it). On the other hand, I suppose we could look into the first issue if we haven't, especially if there's already a Dudleyfix for it.

And yeah, I don't think this sort of thing has ever caused a crash in BG1 even when Biff fails to appear or gets chunked before he's able to fill in...