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#1 Miloch

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Posted 30 May 2008 - 09:07 PM

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File Name: Thrown Hammers
File Submitters: Miloch and Sam.
File Submitted: 19 August 2014 (v1 submitted 11 Jun 2008)
File Category: Miscellaneous Released Mods
Forum: http://www.shsforums...showtopic=34099
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Adds thrown hammer animations and a few items to most IE games.

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Original post, by Sam.:

In Baldur's Gate II, there are several war hammers that can be thrown, including "Dwarven Thrower +3" (hamm06.itm) and "Aegis-Fang" (aegis.itm). Even though they are war hammers, when they are actually thrown they appear as an axe flying through air instead of a hammer. The "projectile type" of the thrown hammer is "axe.pro" whose "projectile anim" is "axe.bam". I was wondering if anyone had built an animation for a thrown war hammer and/or if this has been fixed by some mod.

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Edited by Miloch, 30 September 2014 - 07:14 PM.


#2 Miloch

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 08:33 PM

It'd be a lot of work. There are 5 cycles and 30 frames in each, giving you ~150 frames to edit.

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 10:00 PM

It'd be a lot of work. There are 5 cycles and 30 frames in each, giving you ~150 frames to edit.

Thanks for the response. Although that may be the size of a normal .bam, axe.bam has 5 sequences with 6 frames in each, giving you a total of only 30 frames. I have actually already started it?. It?s sort of a cut-and-paste job from the 11 or so other animations for hand-held war hammers. The problem is the thrown animation calls for angles of the war hammer that don?t exist for the hand-swung ones so it?s not perfect. It functions and looks ok but it?s the wrong color in game. The head of the war hammer is the same blue that it is in the .bam? it should be blue right? What am I forgetting?
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Posted 05 June 2008 - 10:29 PM

Wow, awesome--I hope you work it out, as thrown war-hammers would be fantastic to see!

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Posted 05 June 2008 - 10:47 PM

Yes, you are right... the total frame count is 30 - I thought that was the count per cycle without looking too closely at it originally. In that case, it wouldn't be that tough, as some frames don't even have much data to edit.

I'm not sure what you mean by "blue" - the axe (or hammer) head should be grey, and the background a turquoise (RGB value 0,151,151 to be precise).

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Posted 06 June 2008 - 10:40 AM

I'm not sure what you mean by "blue" - the axe (or hammer) head should be grey, and the background a turquoise (RGB value 0,151,151 to be precise).

Uuuuum, look at WQNWHA3.bam. The head of the war hammer is mapped to blue so that in-game, it will look the color defined by the .itm file. Right? Since I got the frames for the thrown war hammer from these .bam files with blue heads that do work, I?m not sure why mine isn?t working. Maybe the problem is in the .pro file?.

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Posted 06 June 2008 - 11:50 AM

Uuuuum, look at WQNWHA3.bam. The head of the war hammer is mapped to blue so that in-game, it will look the color defined by the .itm file. Right?

Oh, I see. That means it is palettable or the colour of the weapon in someone's hand can be changed (probably not blue though). I'm pretty sure the thrown projectiles are not palettable though - the axe isn't anyway. So you probably just want to make the hammer head grey.

You might need to do more with the .pro and you might need to add it to missile.ids too, if that doesn't have hardcoded limits (it it does, you could replace an existing projectile maybe).

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Posted 06 June 2008 - 04:53 PM

I'm pretty sure the thrown projectiles are not palettable though - the axe isn't anyway.

Why would they be any different? I noticed that the axe wasn't but to me that didn't mean that they couldn't be.

you might need to add it to missile.ids too, if that doesn't have hardcoded limits (it it does, you could replace an existing projectile maybe).

As far as I can tell, you have to add the entry to projectl.ids. That part of it is seems to be working fine for me.

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Posted 06 June 2008 - 05:21 PM

I'm pretty sure the thrown projectiles are not palettable though - the axe isn't anyway.

Why would they be any different? I noticed that the axe wasn't but to me that didn't mean that they couldn't be.

I don't know - you could test it. I would guess that once the projectile is thrown it's no longer on the .cre that controls the palette. I don't think dagger.bam or any of the other thrown weapons are paletted either.

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Posted 08 June 2008 - 03:32 PM

I don't know - you could test it.

Ok, I tested it and it appears you are right. I'm having a bit of a problem though. When I am throwing the hammer at a target up and to the right, the direction of the hammer's spin reverses direction a third of the way to the target. WTH is causing that? It's not the sequence of the frames in the .bam because when the war hammer is being thrown down and to the left, it is spinning the correct direction the whole way. Any suggestions?

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Posted 08 June 2008 - 03:41 PM

When I am throwing the hammer at a target up and to the right, the direction of the hammer's spin reverses direction a third of the way to the target. WTH is causing that? It's not the sequence of the frames in the .bam because when the war hammer is being thrown down and to the left, it is spinning the correct direction the whole way. Any suggestions?

No idea. Does it happen if you use the same .pro file with a different .bam like the axe or dagger?

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 07:56 PM

No idea. Does it happen if you use the same .pro file with a different .bam like the axe or dagger?

Yes. It happens with the origional axe.pro and my.pro with axe.bam and my.bam on my computer even after rebooting. I even tried them on a different computer and it still hammened. It must of always been there, I just hadn't paid enough attention to notice it before. That means that they are finished. If only I could figure out how to attach files to a poast....

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 08:12 PM

It must of always been there, I just hadn't paid enough attention to notice it before.

Probably means it's hardcoded then. Oh well.

That means that they are finished. If only I could figure out how to attach files to a poast....

Cool. I think you might need to register to attach stuff, and you might need to .zip or .rar the files. Then you can upload the file and select the attachment in the window above the Upload to insert it in the post.

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 06:36 PM

Lets see if I can attact it right.

Please keep in mind that "It?s sort of a cut-and-paste job from the 11 or so other animations for hand-held war hammers. The problem is the thrown animation calls for angles of the war hammer that don?t exist for the hand-swung ones so it?s not perfect". All I had to make these BAMs was NearInfinity, DLTCEP, and MS Paint. If you can't get them to work right, just let me know.

Oh, if anyone feels that these are worth an installer that adds the entries to the IDS file and changes the ITM files accordingly, that would be great.

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Edited by Sam., 11 June 2008 - 03:11 PM.

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#15 Miloch

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Posted 10 June 2008 - 11:47 PM

Oh, if anyone feels that these are worth an installer that adds the entries to the IDS file and changes the ITM files accordingly, that would be great.

Got it. I'll post a WeiDUized version here in a bit (unless there's somewhere better to upload it).

I'll throw in a few items I WeiDUized but never got around to releasing. These are some of Lord Delekhan's items he gave me permission to use, including a thrown war hammer (Mjolnir). I guess I can recolour the BAM and give that the blue projectile since it's not used elsewhere.

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 12:15 AM

Feel free to upload it to the Misc Mods category in the DM, if you'd like. Will be very interesting to see it ingame--posts some screenshots if you can!

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 11:04 AM

Feel free to upload it to the Misc Mods category in the DM, if you'd like. Will be very interesting to see it ingame--posts some screenshots if you can!

Done :).

Thrown Hammers v1
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The readme has some screenshots Sam took and some item graphics. I don't know if you want to move it to SHS (if so, all the files are in the mod download).

I also did OSX and Linux versions. I don't know if I can add them to that same page or if they show up as separate entries (which would be kind of spammy).

I tested this with BG2-ToB and EasyTutu. It should be compatible with BGT also (which has a special "scatter" option where the new items appear in either the BG1 or BG2 portion of the game).

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 12:04 PM

Cool! and Thanks!

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#19 Kaeloree

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 02:17 PM

Awesome. :) I'll take a look when I have a moment in the next few days, can't wait to check it out!

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 03:34 PM

I just did the manual edit with some Check the Bodies masterwork throwing hammers (they stack up like throwing axes). Fantastic stuff Sam.! And also to Miloch for making these Weidu-licious. :Bow: :Bow: :clap: :clap: :clap:
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