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#1 Greenhorn

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 02:30 AM

Ok, so I finally start up and ready to roll whole thing. But I'm already stuck. Issue is with Baldurdash 1.73. Since I will install TS I obviously need BD 1.68 or 1.73. Latter is recommended over former but for starters it can't be downloaded either from Black wyrm or link provided in BWS/Conf/Global. Furthermore it is marked as expert ( pending fixes ) but still recommended? :mellow: Now about its various components of which I can't find information ( because I can't download it and read README ).  -_-

How option 015: third path plays with Berelinde's alternatives and Saerileth's quest? Component 013:Nalia states incompatibility with Turambar's fixes and tweaks component 10 ( it should probably be 2010). And what exactly is Restored twisted rune quest? Essential fix ( like is seems in BD1.68 ) or arbitrary add on of suicidal tactical encounter disguised like fix ( like it seems in 1.73 ). 

PS: my BWS is newest, downloaded this morning


Edited by Greenhorn, 14 February 2016 - 02:32 AM.


#2 bergadario

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 02:42 AM

That's why in my installation yesterday I had to deselect Baldurdash 1.73 and select instead 1.68 to keep TS: first I didn't find any 1.73 download around and in my BWS, and also TS is stated to have a dependency strictly on Baldurdash 1.68 (that's not compatible with the 1.73 of course). I wanted to write about this too.



#3 agb1

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 06:11 AM

Baldurdash 1.73 is now marked stable as BWP Fixpack adaptation for installing Baldurdash with BG2 Fixpack patch has been updated.  I also corrected the download link...

 

BWP Fixpack patches TS to accept Baldurdash 1.73 also.

 

As far as I know, the third path should be compatible (as an alternative) with Alternatives.  Not sure about Saerileth's quest.

 

You are correct about Turambar's fixes 2010 conflicting with Nalia, but Turambar's fixes # 10 also does (it is a correction for Nalia's ring name for Italian translation only).

 

The restored twisted rune quest is not essential - it is content restoration that introduces a series of clues (that you must find) leading to the encounter, so you can't just stumble into it.


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Posted 14 February 2016 - 06:22 AM

Baldurdash 1.73 is now marked stable as BWP Fixpack adaptation for installing Baldurdash with BG2 Fixpack patch has been updated.  I also corrected the download link...

 

BWP Fixpack patches TS to accept Baldurdash 1.73 also.

 

As far as I know, the third path should be compatible (as an alternative) with Alternatives.  Not sure about Saerileth's quest.

 

You are correct about Turambar's fixes 2010 conflicting with Nalia, but Turambar's fixes # 10 also does (it is a correction for Nalia's ring name for Italian translation only).

 

The restored twisted rune quest is not essential - it is content restoration that introduces a series of clues (that you must find) leading to the encounter, so you can't just stumble into it.

Thanks one more time for your help agb1. Especially for Twisted rune clarification, it is relief  that it not "fixes" the game the way that Improved Copper Coronet does. I'm back to the business then.



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Posted 14 February 2016 - 06:51 AM

I think there is a problem for Baldurdash 1.73 download: the direct link refers to a Google Drive file not accessible (at least to me). Same thing trying to download the file directly from The Black Wyrm...).
 

Do you have any working link for download?



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Posted 14 February 2016 - 06:58 AM

I think there is a problem for Baldurdash 1.73 download: the direct link refers to a Google Drive file not accessible (at least to me). Same thing trying to download the file directly from The Black Wyrm...).
 

Do you have any working link for download?

Yep, seconded, the link is still dead and nowhere to be found even with newest BWS downloaded 10 minutes ago... File can't be found neither in mod forum or download center...



#7 agb1

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 09:39 AM

Hmm, I wonder if I have special access... ?

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#8 bergadario

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 09:51 AM

Sorry agb1, could you please upload the file here or to mediafire or similar? So me and Greenhorn (and maybe others) can proceed with installation. Otherwise I have to proceed again with 1.68 version...Thank you.  :lol2:



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Posted 14 February 2016 - 09:56 AM

Hmm, I wonder if I have special access... ?

Probably, after all you were able to download Rukrakia patch when I could not.  :P I double checked it just now, no luck. But no matter, it seems like too big trouble to bother with, according to this: http://www.shsforums...e-2#entry587230

So, I will settle with good ole 1.68. Couple of more questions if you will indulge me though: I was thinking to install Paint and couple of other portrait mods on top of bws after final biffing to see what I like and what I would change regarding NPC portraits ( of course carefully observing dependencies ). Is this bad idea and do I risk to ruin whole BWS installation by this? Also I would like to know is this was fixed by BWS fixpack and was anyone had issues with this like I: 

 

These I found while playing Epic endeavors TC. Don't know if it is fixed by BWP fixpack. Anyway soldier kit causes freeze at character creation ( only way to get out is via Task manager ) and component Dual-wielding for thrown weapons tweak causes all items affected to have buying price of 1gp in the stores.

Edited by Greenhorn, 14 February 2016 - 11:05 AM.


#10 agb1

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 10:00 AM

No problem installing portraits manually at the end.  I don't understand your second question.  Are you asking if Epic Endeavors was patched by BWP Fixpack?  You can go here:  https://github.com/B...G-World-Fixpack and check the fixes list ... Epic Endeavors is not listed there.


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#11 Greenhorn

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 10:06 AM

No problem installing portraits manually at the end.  I don't understand your second question.  Are you asking if Epic Endeavors was patched by BWP Fixpack?  You can go here:  https://github.com/B...G-World-Fixpack and check the fixes list ... Epic Endeavors is not listed there.

No, no, just saying that I found these bugs in RPG Dungeon Kit Pack while playing it in Epic Endeavors. So it seems no one encountered something similar...



#12 agb1

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 10:13 AM

I think you're the first.

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 10:32 AM

Probably, after all you were able to download Rukrakia patch when I could not.  :P I double checked it just now, no luck. 

 

Just a quote to Greenhorn to confirm the broken download link for Rukrakia NPC. I always deselected that mod in my install attempts due to this problem.



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Posted 14 February 2016 - 10:54 AM

Probably, after all you were able to download Rukrakia patch when I could not.  :P I double checked it just now, no luck. 

 

Just a quote to Greenhorn to confirm the broken download link for Rukrakia NPC. I always deselected that mod in my install attempts due to this problem.

Actually, it can be downloaded, but only manually. It would be bad idea since this mod overwrites ToB map. Good news is that patched, compatible version is coming soon ( which I probably won't play since I will complete BWS installation in this couple of days  :crying: ).


Edited by Greenhorn, 14 February 2016 - 10:55 AM.


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Posted 14 February 2016 - 11:20 AM

Uhm Greenhorn...from BWS if I try to download Rukrakia NPC mod manually I'm redirected to this link, a (maybe) Korean page that seems to me like "file not found"...

http://club.paran.co...~~~&bl_io=~~~~~

 

Is this the page you downloaded that mod from? Or another one?



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Posted 14 February 2016 - 11:34 AM

Uhm Greenhorn...from BWS if I try to download Rukrakia NPC mod manually I'm redirected to this link, a (maybe) Korean page that seems to me like "file not found"...

http://club.paran.co...~~~&bl_io=~~~~~

 

Is this the page you downloaded that mod from? Or another one?

Here is the link: http://www.shsforums...-89#entry582585

But I repeat, do not download this version or you will mess up  BGT Worldmap!! ( this is just big warning, not unfriendly yelling  :D ).

Better wait until this see light of the day: http://www.shsforums...-13#entry587195


Edited by Greenhorn, 14 February 2016 - 11:50 AM.


#17 bergadario

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Posted 14 February 2016 - 12:05 PM

My installation is running (again) without it.  :new_thumbs: Thanks anyway.



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Posted 16 February 2016 - 08:01 AM

Hey agb1, I'm little confused about Rjali mod: 

 

* Converted some conflict warnings to auto-resolved conflict rules (still ignorable by experts)
* Added Eternal Imoen 6.1 and Rjali Romance 5.1 (BG2, BGT and BG2:EE)
* Added new EET Tweaks component #31 (BG2:EE and EET)
* Re-enabled BWP "SR consistence" dialog.tlk corrections

She was present in my previous BWSps but not in the newest. Is this mean that my dreams of BGT harem are brutally crushed?   :crying:  :lol:


Edited by Greenhorn, 16 February 2016 - 08:03 AM.


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Posted 18 February 2016 - 02:50 AM

Just found that TDD also adds Yeslick in addition to Yeslick NPC and BG1NPC SoA. Yeslick NPC should have conflict warnings with TDD in addition with the  BG1NPC SoA. Although Yeslick NPC is recommended ( green ) I guess I will have to drop him...



#20 agb1

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Posted 18 February 2016 - 05:33 AM

Rjali is only for BG2:EE. I had misinterpreted one of the author's statements about compatibility.

http://forums.blackw....php/t5292.html

Perhaps TDDz can remove the duplicate Yeslick -- does he have any extra content in TDD or is he just an import of the BG1 NPC creature?

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