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[Kastagir]

If one or more ankheg shells are in inventory, Taerom's store is not accessible. The dialog terminates if the player refuses to sell them or pay to have them made into armor. This seems strange in the case where the player would like to make the armor but does not yet have the money (maybe they would like to sell items to Taerom first so they can afford his prices). In this case, the player is forced to drop the ankheg shells in order to access Taerom's store inventory to buy/sell items.

I know there have been problems with the ankheg shell quest in the past going back several builds. Was this a compromise to make it work more smoothly or is this something else? I know it operated differently in vanilla BG1, but that's not my primary concern - as it is, it seems counter-intuitive.

[Ascension64]

If one or more ankheg shells are in inventory, Taerom's store is not accessible. The dialog terminates if the player refuses to sell them or pay to have them made into armor. This seems strange in the case where the player would like to make the armor but does not yet have the money (maybe they would like to sell items to Taerom first so they can afford his prices). In this case, the player is forced to drop the ankheg shells in order to access Taerom's store inventory to buy/sell items.

I know there have been problems with the ankheg shell quest in the past going back several builds. Was this a compromise to make it work more smoothly or is this something else? I know it operated differently in vanilla BG1, but that's not my primary concern - as it is, it seems counter-intuitive.

It had to be fixed. However, in vanilla BG1, you also cannot access the store until you do something with the shells.

[Miloch]

Is there a problem with fixing it so that it works logically? (I don't know - I haven't looked at it.)

[Ascension64]

Is there a problem with fixing it so that it works logically? (I don't know - I haven't looked at it.)

You'd have to add text, which is something that I am completely against.

[Kastagir]

That's fine by me. I'd rather preserve the original behavior even if it is somewhat strange than the alternative of adding spurious dialog.

[Jarno Mikkola]

Is there a problem with fixing it so that it works logically? (I don't know - I haven't looked at it.)

You'd have to add text, which is something that I am completely against.

A good alternative could be to put a component to the BGT Tweaks to allow such a behavior, wouldn't it?
So if you Miloch, or anyone else create the code, I am quite sure Ascension64 puts it there, once it's tested etc. Unless...

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 10 August 2008 - 02:11 PM.

[Miloch]

A good alternative could be to put a component to the BGT Tweaks to allow such a behavior, wouldn't it? So if you Miloch, or anyone else create the code, I am quite sure Ascension64 puts it there, once it's tested etc. Unless...

It might make a good tweak, but I'm not good at dialogue modding, so someone else'd have to do it. I was mainly wondering if we should fix it in the BG1 Fixpack too, but we are also against adding text unless absolutely necessary. If Ascension64 or someone has fixed it another way though, we would be open to swiping that code.

[P.S.: when are you going to try your hand at modding, Jarno? ]

[Ascension64]

[P.S.: when are you going to try your hand at modding, Jarno? ]

I'm not much for adding dialogue even to a tweak, either.
I'll be interested to see Taerom Fuirium turn into an explosive demonic ankheg shell smith at the hands of Jarno...

[Jarno Mikkola]

I'm not much for adding dialogue even to a tweak, either.
I'll be interested to see Taerom Fuirium turn into an explosive demonic ankheg shell smith at the hands of Jarno...

You dare to challenge me! With the Fireballs, the Incendiary Cloud and Demons.

But in reality... I would be just use the same old "I'm not interested in either, but *could you show what you have for sale.*" -pitch. *The exact same reply as the one that normally leads to the shopping.*

[P.S.: when are you going to try your hand at modding, Jarno? ]

Well, with the knowledge I possess, it's not very likely, ever.