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[Kastagir]

I saw this mentioned on the EasyTutu forums back in January and noticed that the behavior also exists in current BGT. For example, skeletons in High Hedge have throwing knives, swords and shields. In vanilla BG1, they would throw knives at the party until they ran out, then would close to melee with swords and shields. In BGT, they simply close and attack with swords, never using their throwing knives. Is this a limitation brought about by the presence of the equipped shield that is only showing up because of the BG2 engine (possibly due to scripting differences)? Or is something else going on? (and, ultimately, is there an elegant solution?)

[Chevalier]

ultimately, is there an elegant solution?

You might try SCS.

[Ascension64]

Well, supposedly they would change to sword and shield if you got too close, and change back to throwing daggers if you ran away.
However, BG2 has problems getting EquipRanged() to work properly with the throwing daggers, so I can't really restore the original behaviour. I'm not sure if DW had a solution to this in SCS.

[Miloch]

This bugs the hell out of me too, and it makes no sense. An "elegant" fix that doesn't resort to adding a whole lot of scripting would be great.

[Taimon]

What's strange is, that the engine seems capable of handling ranged + shield with EquipRanged() (try a sling), but somehow fails with daggers.

[Miloch]

What's strange is, that the engine seems capable of handling ranged + shield with EquipRanged() (try a sling), but somehow fails with daggers.

That is odd, since obviously any kind of dagger can be used with a shield. Maybe the BG2 script engine considers throwing daggers melee weapons for some reason? Or maybe it only looks at "launchers" like slings and bows? Does it choke on darts too?

[Ascension64]

What's strange is, that the engine seems capable of handling ranged + shield with EquipRanged() (try a sling), but somehow fails with daggers.

That is odd, since obviously any kind of dagger can be used with a shield. Maybe the BG2 script engine considers throwing daggers melee weapons for some reason? Or maybe it only looks at "launchers" like slings and bows? Does it choke on darts too?

Not sure about darts, but I know that items have an IsMissile() flag for each ability (BG2 has false for the Throwing Dagger whereas BG1 has true). However, whether that is True or False doesn't allow the engine to recognise it on EquipRanged().

[Miloch]

Not sure about darts, but I know that items have an IsMissile() flag for each ability (BG2 has false for the Throwing Dagger whereas BG1 has true). However, whether that is True or False doesn't allow the engine to recognise it on EquipRanged().

Hmm. So what purpose does it serve?