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[LarryTheArcher]

I mean she is soulless.

Interestingly, in D&D mythology vampires do have souls. That's the premise I'm working under.

not to mention you can feel emotions without a soul. Bodhi has a hunger... thats an emotion. Irenicus feels emotions, though weekly since hes lost his for so long. In many things about vamps, they can feel things even soulless...

my opinion: Go for it, but make it a redeeming, just not cheesy...

But make some things dissaprove it: Either make it so Paladins, Good Clerics or Lathander Priests, Undead Hunters wouldnt romance her... but everyone, regardless of rep or alignment could do it...

Edited by LarryTheArcher, 16 November 2004 - 05:04 PM.

[fallen_demon]

not that i've read this whole thread...but i've noticed a lot of argument to whether a vampire can be romanced or not is if they feel emotions and if its necrophilia. Has the sucidal aspect of sleeping with a vampire been ignored?

[Alratan]

not that i've read this whole thread...but i've noticed a lot of argument to whether a vampire can be romanced or not is if they feel emotions and if its necrophilia.  Has the sucidal aspect of sleeping with a vampire been ignored?

I suppose that would be when it would be useful to be a powerful evil cleric - Command Undead would be nice, not to mention Neg E. protection.

[Dragon Lord]

Okay, I haven't read the entire topic (I have to sleep sometime) so I'll cut right to the chase. It is possible to romance a Vampire. Oh, and as to the suicidal thing, just because a Vampire can suck blood and needs to doesn't mean she can't wait. Besides, the blood in question being decended from Bhaal, wouldn't it give her an electric shock or something? But finally, I need the final word on this. Is Valen going to be made romancable? (I collect romances you see)

[khay]

Interesting point and the more I think about it, the more I realize that a melancholic romance would be much more fitting than anything else.

[AnnabelleRose]

mortal and vamp cant get together, so I think this should be a sad one.

If <charname> was a normal mortal, this might be true. <charname> is a far cry from normal. and depending on your choice at the end of ToB, you might not even be mortal.

I think it could work. Besides, among other things, if charname became a normal mortal he/she could always be embraced.

[khay]

Perhaps they (charname & Valen) should try their best to find a cure for vampirism first; if this doesn`t work, then they might ponder about having charname embraced.

[AnnabelleRose]

Perhaps they (charname & Valen) should try their best to find a cure for vampirism first; if this doesn`t work, then they might ponder about having charname embraced.

Agreed. :thumb: (Not like you need my approval or anything, but that is a good point.)

[Thorium Dragon]

If I could characterize the romance in one word, I would use "complicated".

I am planning a variety of possible outcomes to the Valen/PC relationship; however, I don't think that a vampire and a bhallspawn will end their adventure skipping off into the sunset.

[AnnabelleRose]

If I could characterize the romance in one word, I would use "complicated".

I am planning a variety of possible outcomes to the Valen/PC relationship; however, I don't think that a vampire and a bhallspawn will end their adventure skipping off into the sunset.

According to true D&D rules, that ending would be very bad for one of them.

[Thorium Dragon]

Is the romance going to be included in the May release or is it yet a working plan?

Just to be clear, my goal is to have a testable alpha in May- not a release. Be sure to check the Development Diary for details.

I feel that I've done too much work on the project so far to have the first release tainted by a buggy gaming experience. The coding is pretty ambitious so I would like it to be thoroughly bug-tested.

Furthermore, what are the contents of the romance? As I understand, you'll be making a redemption option for Valen. As that doesn't suit my preference, I have to ask: Will the romance work towards redeeming her or will it suit evil PCs as well? From what I remember, when romancing Viconia, one didn't have truly evil dialogue options. I wanted to know if that's the case with this romance too or not.

Regarding the contents of the romance, I'd rather not spoil the fun by listing them here. However I have made it my goal to write it along several different paths guided more by what I perceive as Valen's psychological makeup, rather than the somewhat narrow interpretations of good, evil, and neutrality offered by the game in general.

But more to your point: Don't worry, the opportunities for evil play are many and varied. +

Edited by Thorium Dragon, 03 May 2005 - 06:03 PM.

[Nirvana]

i'm definitly looking forward to see this mod  

[Togashi Renshi]

not being able to cross running water, except by being carried or over a bridge

Hm, that actually would be good if the mod were to have a romance (it does have a romance, right?). I dunno, lovetalk material or something. Meh, I can't think straight in the morning...

Edited by Togashi Renshi, 02 June 2005 - 04:14 AM.

[Fizbandanna]

although I agree it would be a great opportunity for the more physical side of the romance if the PC had to cary her over a bridge at some point, as well as developing trust