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[Lollorian]

Heya folks

I've been wondering ... With so many tweak mods increasing the stackable item size (potions, arrows, bolts etc), the maximum amount of stuff I could select (before hitting the BUY button) is only 16 I know this is vanilla game behavior but have this doubt that this seemingly minor inconvenience may be hardcoded (why Bioware why?? )

What I wanna ask is, has this been discussed before? Is there a workaround to this?? Can this be easily changed (without an .exe patch)??

Even increasing this to 30 (or mayhaps 32, seeing that 16=2^4 and 32=2^5 ) would reduce half the number of clicks to get the job done (before I get the ____ of Plenty things )

Cheers,
Lol

[Jarno Mikkola]

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Well, the inventory holds 16 items, so unless you buy a stackable item(arrows etc.) you have to remain within the 16. Or so I would think, but then again it wasn't me that though this up.

With stackable items, you can double click the store item and you get to choose the amount. You did know that, right? Let's put these 1000 arrows to this bag, so we can then remove them one by one and kill some time.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 06 October 2009 - 10:46 AM.

[Icendoan]

When double-clicking the item, and then proceeding to use the arrows instead of typing the number in, you end up with a cap of 16. This is what I think is being discussed here.


Icen

[Mike1072]

I think the 16 refers to 16 stacks of ammunition.

[Jarno Mikkola]

I think the 16 refers to 16 stacks of ammunition.

Yeah... limiting stacks = bad idea...

[Lollorian]

Yeah, I was talking about the 16 you get when ya fiddle with the arrows after double-clicking (btw, even if I TYPE in a number >16, it reverts to 1 when I click OK That's one of the major pissing-off points about this)

And I think Jarno raised an important point here

The number of inventory slots is 16, so at any time, the number of free inventory slots should (at max) be 16. Now, if the limits were raised (to say ... 32) then we'd have the ability to buy 32 non-stackable items as well (AT ONE TIME!!!) Which could cause problems (overflowing inventory/everything-falls-to-ground syndrome etc)

So, while I don't think everything falling to the ground would be game-breaking, I like to put this out:

Is there a way to change the limits of stackable items ONLY???
Or is there a way to increase how many come in 1 stack (eg 1 stack of arrows = 10 arrows ... can you increase that to say, 50)?? This probably won't work for potions though (you'll be FORCED to buy them in bulk )

Cheers,
Lol

[Azkyroth]

Yeah, I was talking about the 16 you get when ya fiddle with the arrows after double-clicking (btw, even if I TYPE in a number >16, it reverts to 1 when I click OK That's one of the major pissing-off points about this)

And I think Jarno raised an important point here

The number of inventory slots is 16, so at any time, the number of free inventory slots should (at max) be 16. Now, if the limits were raised (to say ... 32) then we'd have the ability to buy 32 non-stackable items as well (AT ONE TIME!!!) Which could cause problems (overflowing inventory/everything-falls-to-ground syndrome etc)

So, while I don't think everything falling to the ground would be game-breaking, I like to put this out:

Is there a way to change the limits of stackable items ONLY???
Or is there a way to increase how many come in 1 stack (eg 1 stack of arrows = 10 arrows ... can you increase that to say, 50)?? This probably won't work for potions though (you'll be FORCED to buy them in bulk )

Cheers,
Lol

If you're referring to the "40 arrows in a stack" limit, as I recall that's easily changed in the item header. I don't have DLTCEP set up on this drive yet, though; can someone doublecheck that?

[Jarno Mikkola]

Is there a way to change the limits of stackable items ONLY???
Or is there a way to increase how many come in 1 stack (eg 1 stack of arrows = 10 arrows ... can you increase that to say, 50)?? This probably won't work for potions though (you'll be FORCED to buy them in bulk )

The item stat that's involved is the Stack amount, and there is plenty of mods that give it different sizes, it can be from 1 to 32000+, now, there is plenty of mods that adjust this, I should always use this:

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3100 // Unlimited Potion Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3110 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking

But, am not able in the BWS, cause it doesn't install it cause it could make the lag worse, though I have never experienced that. Having had 3000+ arrows in CA games, and my own made NPC had the magic rounds in use go around the 32 767 stack, with no lag what so ever. That's why I put:

15. Inventory management(no stacks that have more than about 200 items, in a bag, arrows etc.), -might also help...

The number of inventory slots is 16, so at any time, the number of free inventory slots should (at max) be 16. Now, if the limits were raised (to say ... 32) then we'd have the ability...

But for that Taimon would need to redo/patch all the .cre files, and what a horrible mess that would be.

Edited by Jarno Mikkola, 07 October 2009 - 12:38 AM.

[Lollorian]

If you're referring to the "40 arrows in a stack" limit, as I recall that's easily changed in the item header. I don't have DLTCEP set up on this drive yet, though; can someone doublecheck that?

That's not the thing I'm referring to

When you double-click on say, an arrow in a store, you can change the number upto 16 (now in that 1 = 10 arrows) not the total stack amount

The item stat that's involved is the Stack amount, and there is plenty of mods that give it different sizes, it can be from 1 to 32000+, now, there is plenty of mods that adjust this, I should always use this:

~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3100 // Unlimited Potion Stacking
~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3110 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking

But, am not able in the BWS, cause it doesn't install it cause it could make the lag worse, though I have never experienced that. Having had 3000+ arrows in CA games, and my own made NPC had the magic rounds in use go around the 32 767 stack, with no lag what so ever. That's why I put:

15. Inventory management(no stacks that have more than about 200 items, in a bag, arrows etc.), -might also help...

Like I said, I'm talking about the stacks you BUY, not the total stack size

The number of inventory slots is 16, so at any time, the number of free inventory slots should (at max) be 16. Now, if the limits were raised (to say ... 32) then we'd have the ability...

But for that Taimon would need to redo/patch all the .cre files, and what a horrible mess that would be.

Why would .cre's need to be patched for something that's related to stores?? I'm not talking about increasing the inventory lol just increasing the buying limit

Cheers,
Lol

[Miloch]

Or is there a way to increase how many come in 1 stack (eg 1 stack of arrows = 10 arrows ... can you increase that to say, 50)??

Yeah, you could patch all ammunition found in stores to increase the stacks. I guess. Though I don't really see the big issue with having to buy a few stacks. Do you have any idea how impractical carrying around 100 arrows would be, let alone 1000 or more? You'd have to have quivers all over your body, and you wouldn't be able to move.