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#41 Quester

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Posted 31 January 2012 - 02:26 AM

@Lava: Would it be alright to add Varshoon to Lvl1NPCs? I'm in the process of rounding up permissions from a number of NPC mod creators whose NPCs are not yet included. See this post for some more information.

#42 Lava Del'Vortel

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 09:57 AM

I think someone already asked me about that, but it's pointless. Varshoon has his own, custom kit which is part of his heritage. He is a psionic creature and this would result in ridiculus situation like making a illithid berserker.
However, if players believe it ok, then... it's up to them. I myself think that's completely pointless and would result in breaking most basic rules.

Edited by Lava Del'Vortel, 03 February 2012 - 09:59 AM.


#43 Quester

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 11:14 AM

I don't really have any personal plans to change Varshoon into something else, but it's good for Lvl1NPCs to cover as many mod NPCs as possible, I think. Thanks!

Edit: There is actually a FR prestige class for illithids called 'Body Tamer', which is a physical melee-focused fighter. Just sayin'. :)

Edited by Quester, 03 February 2012 - 11:18 AM.


#44 Lava Del'Vortel

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 12:15 PM

I may be wrong, but doesn't Lvl1NPCs allow player to pick other class for supported NPCs? And I am afraid that this may result in some strange stuff, because for example Varshoon has unchangable weapon in each of his weapon slots... if someone change his class/kit, then he will loose all the abilities, resistances...
I have a bad feeling about this....

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 02:15 PM

I may be wrong, but doesn't Lvl1NPCs allow player to pick other class for supported NPCs? And I am afraid that this may result in some strange stuff, because for example Varshoon has unchangable weapon in each of his weapon slots... if someone change his class/kit, then he will loose all the abilities, resistances...
I have a bad feeling about this....

I understand (and actually share ;) ) your apprehension... But there's pretty big disclaimers in L1NPC about "you change an NPC into something stupid it's on you!". Other than class/kits you can however edit stats and proficiencies in L1NPC so there's that at least. Although I take it that changing proficiencies would make poor Varshoon pretty lame with his unchangeable weapons :P

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 03:24 PM

exactly... well, it's up to those who insist of makind some kind of strange hybrid of illithid and... who-even-knows-what

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 03:25 PM

All I can see is tentacles.

#48 Kaeloree

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Posted 03 February 2012 - 10:39 PM

I would say since it kind of breaks the mod, I wouldn't put in L1NPCs. But that's just me. Varshoon is different to other NPCs because he has racial abilities that will be broken by changing things.

#49 Lava Del'Vortel

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 01:20 AM

I agree. Quester - you've got your answer. Sorry, but putting Varshoon in Lvl1NPCs will make Varshoon unplayable. This may damage the character.

#50 Quester

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Posted 04 February 2012 - 03:27 AM

I completely understand, and you may be right that it's best for this type of NPC, actually.

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 11:30 PM

Question: could you add some dialogs for the following mods:


Irenicus (the longer road) [http://www.onlinefic...oad_v1.5.1.zip]
Xulaye http://www.spellhold...s.net/ie/xulaye

I must admit that I'm looking forward especially for Irenicus. There could be so much potential behind their dialogues ;)

#52 Lava Del'Vortel

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 02:19 AM

It's been a while since I wrote this mod. I may try to write some banters and post them in G3 Crossmod, so they can be included, but I'm not sure when it's going to happen. But I'm not saying 'no'. It may happen, one day.

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 04:02 AM

It's been a while since I wrote this mod. I may try to write some banters and post them in G3 Crossmod, so they can be included, but I'm not sure when it's going to happen. But I'm not saying 'no'. It may happen, one day.

ok thanks. I'm waiting for these things before restarting:
your mod with Irenicus banters :P
valen Expansion (but I think it's over)
Discover what component of SCSII lags so much on my pc
Chrysta npc ( hoping it will see the daylight someday...)

#54 Oracle

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 08:34 AM

Hi, I really like this NPC good work, just wanted to say I had a problem when Varshoon died and I raised him he was missing all of his custom items,

"Men cry not for themselves, but for their comrades."


#55 Lava Del'Vortel

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 10:36 AM

Hmm that's strange. I will take a look at the problem in future.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 06:58 PM

Hi i know its been asked but can i translate it to polish? I can do that in few days. Really love this mod especially as there are so few well made evil NPCs.

#57 Lava Del'Vortel

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Posted 17 October 2012 - 02:36 AM

Jasne, nie krępuj się ;) Wrzucę tłumaczenie do moda - chociaż może być mały poślizg z uploadem z powodu problemami z downloadem. Dzięki i pozdrawiam! :)

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Posted 20 October 2012 - 08:36 AM

Hi just a small bug report . After being turned into a drow in the Underdark when I used Varshoons dagger to attack anything it would cause the game to crash and a message about a courrpt item Bam file would pop up. iam still enjoying the mod

"Men cry not for themselves, but for their comrades."


#59 Sergio

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:09 PM

Hi Lava Del'Vortel,

it's me disturbing you again.

I wonder if you had time to add the dialogues (with Irenicus and Xulaye) in the mod.

Thanks for help.


Edited by Sergio, 08 February 2013 - 05:07 AM.

Low hung brow, dazed look on your face..... It appears that you are correct, my friend. You are indeed a complete imbecile.


#60 Lava Del'Vortel

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Posted 03 January 2013 - 02:23 PM

I'm afraid I can't add talks with Irenicus as I think author isn't here any longer. I may poke Liam to discuss Xulaye, though. Not sure what they would talk about, though.