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[Miloch]

Ma Linvail is from the Fade mod, I think. We didn't realise it at first, but she shares Aurora's house heh. There is some small crossmod there - if you want to test it, then install Fade, then Aurora (and have Fade in your party for best effect).

There is little chance for talking with the enslaved gnomes until all goblins are dead. If you want to test the earlier conversation, you should be able to go invisible or sneak in and talk to them. The goblin shamans might get a True Sight (I can't recall) but they likely only get one such spell, so even if they do reveal you, just run out and try sneaking in again.

Tomthal should always be there at night unless something odd happened with the script. I don't recall there being a limit to ruby-selling; maybe something messed up the variables. Try checking the ag* variables in your saved game against those in the .d file maybe. I can't think of any case where he wouldn't recognise any rubies at all though.

What do you mean "cheat" with gooseberries? Karaea should only take them one at a time, IIRC. She used to take full stacks of them without giving you full price, but that wasn't our intention so that should be fixed.

[Miloch]

Are you sure you didn't have more than one berry on you? If so, can you give the exact string where it happens? I'm looking at ag_goose2 in agkaraea.d and see she should always do a TakePartyItemNum("agberr01",1) DestroyItem("agberr01") every time she says she'll take a berry. You can, of course, keep repeating that for however many berries you have. It is possible either we missed something or this is something I changed relatively recently since the last release, so can you check the file you have?

[Miloch]

I'm not sure I understand what's happening here. What do you mean by "stacking all gooseberries on a single spot"? On the ground? According to the IESDP, the only time that would happen with TakePartyItemNum is if you had a stack of berries in the quickslot and your inventory was full. In that case, the remaining gooseberries (after she's taken one from the stack) will appear on the ground. Also, by gift do you mean the jam or the pie?

[Daulmakan]

Ma Linvail is from the Fade mod, I think. We didn't realise it at first, but she shares Aurora's house heh. There is some small crossmod there - if you want to test it, then install Fade, then Aurora (and have Fade in your party for best effect).

Edwin Romance mod also uses that house briefly.

[Miloch]

Oh, when she offers to bake the pie, you have already given her enough berries to make it earlier, so that shouldn't be considered a "cheat" because she doesn't need any more berries at that point. She will only bake the pie once, though. After that, you can still give or sell her more berries - just not for more pies. Is that how it works?

@Daulmakan: not familiar with it - for what? Is it something we should worry about?

[Daulmakan]

@Daulmakan: not familiar with it - for what? Is it something we should worry about?

Another NPC from that mod, Dekaras, teleports the party to a mod area when they are in the lower level of Aurora's/Aran's mother's house.

I experienced no technical difficulties with both installed, but it still seemed weird gamewise. As to merit worryness material, dunno, it's your call. I can't think of a suggestion on how to deal with this issue without changing the house (didn't see the crossmod between Fade & Aurora about this).

Edited by Daulmakan, 21 February 2012 - 01:40 PM.

[Miloch]

Ok Gast, so it sounds like it's working as intended?

I added a few lines in Aurora's dialogue to account for Dekaras in Edwin Romance possibly being in her house. It's similar to what we do for Ma Linvail possibly being present. Aurora being a popular woman can account for any number of "visitors" in "her house" .

Spoiler

+ ~Global("ag_dek","GLOBAL",1)~ + @762 /* ~I ran into an assassin in a house north of here. Isn't that your house? You keep some odd company...~ */ DO ~SetGlobal("ag_dek","GLOBAL",2)~ + ag_dek1

IF
~~ ag_dek1
SAY @763 /* ~Oh dear... an assassin? I don't think that's anyone I know. Still, one never can be too sure. Old acquaintances tend to pop in every now and again.~ */
++ @764 /* ~You have an assassin in your past?~ */ + ag_dek2
++ @726 /* ~I see... May I see your stock?~ */ + agaur_store
END

IF
~~ ag_dek2
SAY @765 /* ~Possibly... I have all sorts in my past. I was an adventurer once, you know. Then there's all my customers...~ */
++ @726 /* ~I see... May I see your stock?~ */ + agaur_store
END

So only 4 more lines to translate (@762-765) unless Bookwyrme or someone wants to get more ambitious, but I'm trying to limit the content we add to existing files to make it easier for translators .

[Miloch]

They should only lose one charge per use. It actually isn't possible to code it so it uses 2 charges heh. That's just how the engine works - 1 use = 1 charge. So maybe you used them twice and maybe they didn't work the first time? Note that it will still use a charge even if it doesn't work (if you're in an area where they won't function). That isn't possible to code around either, because it takes a charge to summon the invisible spirit whether it can teleport you or not. If you test it more and keep getting the same thing, let me know.

[Wisp]

Ok Gast, so it sounds like it's working as intended?

I added a few lines in Aurora's dialogue to account for Dekaras in Edwin Romance possibly being in her house.

IIRC, it is not so much that he is the one living there. He teleports you there and then you go upstairs and fight 3 Red Mages and a Lich some Red Mages, some fighters and a Lich and they are the ones living there.

Edited by Wisp, 25 February 2012 - 03:25 PM.

[Miloch]

You sure it's upstairs in the same house? Because Daulmakan described it as:

Dekaras, teleports the party to a mod area when they are in the lower level of Aurora's/Aran's mother's house.

If someone has the filename where this happens, it might help. I tried reading some of the mod code but it was tough, not being commented, a lot of different files and whatnot. I think I did grep it for AR052 or the like and only found one reference to the ground floor of the house, but I might've missed something. Edit: oh, and also it was Dekaras who was on the ground floor, but I didn't see any real reference that he actually lived there, so he could be a burglar or a visitor or who knows what, which is fine for us.

Edited by Miloch, 25 February 2012 - 03:30 PM.

[Wisp]

Okay, so never mind me (it has been years and apparently my memory is getting a bit foggy).

[Daulmakan]

You sure it's upstairs in the same house? Because Daulmakan described it as:

Dekaras, teleports the party to a mod area when they are in the lower level of Aurora's/Aran's mother's house.

If someone has the filename where this happens, it might help.

Dektel1.bcs, referenced in Erdekaras.d. Custom area name is ARBASE.are.

[Miloch]

Well, so it's a custom area anyway, as you said. I could look at all that, but you could save me the time. Does the dialogue I posted make sense then? Basically, you can ask Aurora about it and she won't know for sure, because she has so many visitors and knows so many people (or not - btw, I'm not suggesting she knows Dekaras, at least not on friendly terms - she probably doesn't and certainly doesn't like Edwin or anyone he might be intimate with. She only concedes that there's all sorts of folks in her past who might be stopping by.)

[Bookwyrme]

Ok Gast, so it sounds like it's working as intended?

I added a few lines in Aurora's dialogue to account for Dekaras in Edwin Romance possibly being in her house. It's similar to what we do for Ma Linvail possibly being present. Aurora being a popular woman can account for any number of "visitors" in "her house" .

Spoiler

+ ~Global("ag_dek","GLOBAL",1)~ + @762 /* ~I ran into an assassin in a house north of here. Isn't that your house? You keep some odd company...~ */ DO ~SetGlobal("ag_dek","GLOBAL",2)~ + ag_dek1

IF
~~ ag_dek1
SAY @763 /* ~Oh dear... an assassin? I don't think that's anyone I know. Still, one never can be too sure. Old acquaintances tend to pop in every now and again.~ */
++ @764 /* ~You have an assassin in your past?~ */ + ag_dek2
++ @726 /* ~I see... May I see your stock?~ */ + agaur_store
END

IF
~~ ag_dek2
SAY @765 /* ~Possibly... I have all sorts in my past. I was an adventurer once, you know. Then there's all my customers...~ */
++ @726 /* ~I see... May I see your stock?~ */ + agaur_store
END

So only 4 more lines to translate (@762-765) unless Bookwyrme or someone wants to get more ambitious, but I'm trying to limit the content we add to existing files to make it easier for translators .

Bookwyrme will refrain from ambition, this time!