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[Reneer]

Nktalloth, on May 17 2007, 06:45 PM, said:

Awright, this is an odd bug, and there's very little information, but...

Both the Regional Crime setting and the disguise bounties aren't working. No matter where it is I kill someone, all towns are aware of what I've done, all guards out to get me. The disguises only change my fame and infamy (usually my infamy ends up being a massive negative number while disguises are equipped), however my bounty carries over through all disguises.

The only thing I have on what could even potentially conflict is M.O.E., but I'm not using any of the law enforcement mods included with that. Any ideas?

Oh, and it is indeed in v1.6 that I'm using.

No real clue what could be causing your problem - I'd suggest running the Configuration Menu (see the Readme for how to use it.)

ripple, on May 17 2007, 08:01 PM, said:

I am encountering a strange issue with 1.61. When I steal something, then leave the immediate area (eg. exit a room or a house) and go out of sneak mode, a nearby NPC will always yell as if they detected me stealing ("help! we have a burgler!", "thief!", etc.), but they won't actually do anything (but their disposition will not go down). It's like they are psychic?

That is a bug that will be fixed in 1.62.

gamer007, on May 18 2007, 02:41 AM, said:

I can't seem to run Oblivion with this mod. Using version 1.61. It always crashes as soon as it loads up into the loading screen before the menu. Older versions worked for me.

List of mods:

# This file is used to tell Oblivion which data files to load.
# Use the oblivion launcher or obmm to choose which files you want.
# Please do not modify this file by hand.

# last modified by obmm: 17/05/2007 11:33 PM

Oblivion.esm
AWS-Core.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
No Glow Grass.esp
ImmersiveHealthIndication.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
Streamline 2.1.esp
Atmospheric Loading Screens - Original Text.esp
KoldornsImprovedLava2.esp
diversegrasses.esp
personality_idles2.esp
Francesco's Optional Files 1.esp
Francesco's Optional Files 2.esp
Francesco's Optional Files 3.esp
Francesco's optional vendor tweaks.esp
Francesco's Slower skills x1.5.esp
Francesco's 10 days respawn time - 1-20 day lenght rescale.esp
Kobu's Character Advancement System.esp
RealisticForceMedium.esp
RealisticMagicForceLow.esp
Deadly Reflex 3 - Timed Block no other changes.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
AWS-ShiveringIsles.esp
AWS-Storms & Sound SI.esp

I have Martigen's Monster Mod 3.0 as well, but I uninstalled it thinking it was the cause of the CTD.

Any solutions?

If Oblivion is crashing before it even gets to the main menu (where you select New Game / Load Save, etc.) then no. A crash like that is almost 99% likely to be something other than my mod, since no mods are running at that point.

[Reneer]

Just to let everyone know, I'm working on the problems that have been listed in this thread.

And, it is pretty likely that any mods that change fame and infamy will most likely conflict with the Disguise system in RGO. Problems with icon replacers probably won't have any negative effects.

[Konky]

The idea behind the mod is great, it changes the guards to exactly what they should be in an open world like oblivion.
But i came to the conclusion that this mod will most probably not make it stable :/
You got way too many problems to find them all inr easonable time i think, and oblivion does as good as nothing in helping to debug crashes.

While a lot of things are acceptable (the black world when guards do not find you, some broken quests like the one with the corrupt guard which does not have the correct dialogues anymore, etc).
But the crashes not, also i've had plenty of corrupt savegames and hundrets of CTD
It crashes when i reach wrong parts of the world at the wrong time.
It crashes when i try to start the first thieves guild quest (only when i save -> corruption)
It generally corrupts every 50nth savegame (and i save a lot since the frequent corruptions ^^)

I finally removed the mod from my game again and went back to no psychic guards.


One thing that i'd really like to see, but hey i'm just a guy from the "street" ^^
I'd like to see a new mod from you, created from scratch which adds the most minimal version of the current mod.
The main features in my eyes is: guards are not telepathic, with all consequences
They do not know about crimes they did not see, they do not have internet to comunicate through cities.

Maybe split up your mod in 10 or more small parts that can be enabled as option, this would also help to narrow problems down.

[Reneer]

Konky, on May 21 2007, 06:15 PM, said:

The idea behind the mod is great, it changes the guards to exactly what they should be in an open world like oblivion.
But i came to the conclusion that this mod will most probably not make it stable :/
You got way too many problems to find them all inr easonable time i think, and oblivion does as good as nothing in helping to debug crashes.

While a lot of things are acceptable (the black world when guards do not find you, some broken quests like the one with the corrupt guard which does not have the correct dialogues anymore, etc).
But the crashes not, also i've had plenty of corrupt savegames and hundrets of CTD
It crashes when i reach wrong parts of the world at the wrong time.
It crashes when i try to start the first thieves guild quest (only when i save -> corruption)
It generally corrupts every 50nth savegame (and i save a lot since the frequent corruptions ^^)

I finally removed the mod from my game again and went back to no psychic guards.

One thing that i'd really like to see, but hey i'm just a guy from the "street" ^^
I'd like to see a new mod from you, created from scratch which adds the most minimal version of the current mod.
The main features in my eyes is: guards are not telepathic, with all consequences
They do not know about crimes they did not see, they do not have internet to comunicate through cities.

Maybe split up your mod in 10 or more small parts that can be enabled as option, this would also help to narrow problems down.

The problem with that plan is that that is essentially all the mod does, aside from the various Easter eggs and the Disguises system. I also doubt the CTDs are caused exclusively by my mod, as well. I've started numerous new games while running the mod, and it is a very rare occurrence for me to get a CTD while playing.

Edited by Reneer, 21 May 2007 - 05:55 PM.

[Reneer]

I'm probably going to be taking the crime-scene investigation features out of the mod in 1.62. However, the corpse carry spell will stay in.

[Invader13]

Now I still haven't found that surprise in the mod. That you told me about on the Official Forums.

Edited by Invader13, 28 May 2007 - 11:32 AM.